Looking for Jump 6
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far-trader
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There's the T20 version of the CT Supplement 9 type FF Fleet Courier in the fLibrary, complete with deckplan
Lazy Link
It's 400tons, J6 and 2 tons of cargo (in Supp 9). Don't recall how it worked out or the specifics of the T20 version above. I know I downloaded it and printed it out so I couldn't have been too disappointed in it
Of course, now there's the idea in my head of building a Book 2 version just to see if it can be done
I'll share it here in a bit...
Lazy Link
It's 400tons, J6 and 2 tons of cargo (in Supp 9). Don't recall how it worked out or the specifics of the T20 version above. I know I downloaded it and printed it out so I couldn't have been too disappointed in it
Of course, now there's the idea in my head of building a Book 2 version just to see if it can be done
far-trader
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OK, if you want Book 2 it can be done but 800 tons looks like the smallest practical size.
Quick outline:
800ton streamlined hull. Jump drive X (J6) Maneuver drive M (3G) and Power plant X. Fuel 540tons. Computer model/6. Crew: Pilot, Navigator, Engineers x6, Medic. Staterooms x5 (double occupancy except Commander). Cargo 8tons.
Nice thing about the cargo size, you can stipulate max hardpoints in the design and use the cargo rating to upgrade to weapons, though you'll have to put the Gunners in hot-bunk mode with the regular crew. And it may mean your cargo space is not one contiguous space but 8 small distributed spaces.
Quick outline:
800ton streamlined hull. Jump drive X (J6) Maneuver drive M (3G) and Power plant X. Fuel 540tons. Computer model/6. Crew: Pilot, Navigator, Engineers x6, Medic. Staterooms x5 (double occupancy except Commander). Cargo 8tons.
Nice thing about the cargo size, you can stipulate max hardpoints in the design and use the cargo rating to upgrade to weapons, though you'll have to put the Gunners in hot-bunk mode with the regular crew. And it may mean your cargo space is not one contiguous space but 8 small distributed spaces.
far-trader
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I wondered about that myself some a while back (get ready for the DOH! ), then realised it must be just to allow M6 in those hulls and that J6 was never intended to work for them. The table is just for the drive letter, it doesn't mean you can fit all of them in the hull. I think I even made a M6 100ton Speed Boat once
It might be possible to make a small J6 Boat using 1st. ed. rules, no power plant needed for the jump drive in that, like the original X-Boat.
J6 will work in HG in as small as 400tons, unless that Courier is messed up too Now I've GOT to go check it 
I have a vague recollection of trying smaller hulls and don't think it's possible without drop tanks. Once you allow that it's easy
), then realised it must be just to allow M6 in those hulls and that J6 was never intended to work for them. The table is just for the drive letter, it doesn't mean you can fit all of them in the hull. I think I even made a M6 100ton Speed Boat once
It might be possible to make a small J6 Boat using 1st. ed. rules, no power plant needed for the jump drive in that, like the original X-Boat.
J6 will work in HG in as small as 400tons, unless that Courier is messed up too
Now I've GOT to go check it I have a vague recollection of trying smaller hulls and don't think it's possible without drop tanks. Once you allow that it's easy
far-trader
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Think of it as a HG+ design
I'll go run the original HG Courier and let you know how close to the T20 one it is. Probably just the overall available energy points, which means nothing in CT and only a little more in HG
mike wightman
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Do you want an x-boat design with no maneuver drive, or do you need it to maneuver?
A 200t jump 6 x-boat is possible using LBB2 1st edition
A 200t jump 6 x-boat is possible using LBB2 1st edition
Cranked out a minimal T20 design. 150 Td, J6, 1G
Thanks to Falkayn for his T20 SS...made this nice and easy...
I could probably shave her down about 5-10 more tons, but this is close enough. She's SORE shy on cargo, (only 21 cubic meters) and has no subcraft, but she's got long radio and sensor legs.
Thanks to Falkayn for his T20 SS...made this nice and easy...
Here's a Smaller one.
By trimming the computer down DRASTICALLY, to just J6 support, she's truly underwhelming. The single occupancy SSR's are not happy, and she needs to run under military discipline, but she WILL get there.
She's got half the power, is very myopic, but she's got her legs!
By trimming the computer down DRASTICALLY, to just J6 support, she's truly underwhelming. The single occupancy SSR's are not happy, and she needs to run under military discipline, but she WILL get there.
DaveShayne
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This is a quick design using High Guard (Generated by the HGS software) it's unarmed but will get you 5 tons cargo in a 200 ton hull with jump 6. If you feel the need for a weapon you can do it but it'll eat up 3 tons (1 for the turret 2 for the half stateroom for the gunner) or you could install two turrets for 2 tons and make the medic and engineer double up as gunners but HGS doesn't allow for that.)
As usuall the Architechs fees should be deposted to the Spinward Marches Entertainment Group - Heavy Equipmeant Aquisitions Division account on Regina.
Anyway here's the skinny,
Ship: KG's Request
Class: KG's Request
Type: Fast Courier
Architect: David Shayne
Tech Level: 15
USP
CL-2461661-000000-00000-0 MCr 166.750 200 Tons
Bat Bear Crew: 3
Bat TL: 15
Cargo: 5.000 Fuel: 132.000 EP: 12.000 Agility: 1
Architects Fee: MCr 1.668 Cost in Quantity: MCr 133.400
Detailed Description
HULL
200.000 tons standard, 2,800.000 cubic meters, Close Structure Configuration
CREW
Pilot, Engineer, Medic
ENGINEERING
Jump-6, 1G Manuever, Power plant-6, 12.000 EP, Agility 1
AVIONICS
Bridge, Model/6 Computer
HARDPOINTS
None
ARMAMENT
None
DEFENCES
None
CRAFT
None
FUEL
132.000 Tons Fuel (6 parsecs jump and 28 days endurance)
No Fuel Scoops, No Fuel Purification Plant
MISCELLANEOUS
1.5 Staterooms, 5.000 Tons Cargo
USER DEFINED COMPONENTS
Interesting . . . . very.
Thanks to Far-Trader and Aramis but I think the 200 ton design is what I need.
For game purposes I think I will call it an IISS Fast Dispatch Courier.
Its purpose is to get the PCs to a place with extreme haste. The ship itself will fall victim to a Lukuraku attack. I think I will add one triple turret and fudge the tonnage just a bit . . .
I like to use a robot brain to take the place of a gunner
Thanks to Far-Trader and Aramis but I think the 200 ton design is what I need.
For game purposes I think I will call it an IISS Fast Dispatch Courier.
Its purpose is to get the PCs to a place with extreme haste. The ship itself will fall victim to a Lukuraku attack. I think I will add one triple turret and fudge the tonnage just a bit . . .
I like to use a robot brain to take the place of a gunner
I think I might add two four ton drop boosters.
Used as a set they provide 3G acceleration for fast boosts out to jump points.
Four tons each (2 tons drive, 2 tons fuel).
20 hours burn time and reusable.
MCr 12.2 for the set.
The ship is supposed to provide a getaway so I need a way of getting them off world fast! I figure if they use the ship’s engine as well they can pull 4G out to the jump point and drop the boosters to jump.
Used as a set they provide 3G acceleration for fast boosts out to jump points.
Four tons each (2 tons drive, 2 tons fuel).
20 hours burn time and reusable.
MCr 12.2 for the set.
The ship is supposed to provide a getaway so I need a way of getting them off world fast! I figure if they use the ship’s engine as well they can pull 4G out to the jump point and drop the boosters to jump.
Andrew Boulton
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With FF&S2 you can do it in 100dt.
mike wightman
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I think you can do it with MT as well, but I'll have to check...
DaveShayne
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Also the 25 tons saved by the lower jump fuel requirement.
DaveShayne
SOC-12
Consider that the power plant fuel listed (12 tons) is good for 28 days. If your willing to shave that down to 14 days you get 6 lovely tons to play with. Enough to add both those lubberly turrets and a staterrom fit for a brace o' gunners. So here is the corrected version to take this into account.Originally posted by Kurega Gikur:
Interesting . . . . very.
Thanks to Far-Trader and Aramis but I think the 200 ton design is what I need.
For game purposes I think I will call it an IISS Fast Dispatch Courier.
Its purpose is to get the PCs to a place with extreme haste. The ship itself will fall victim to a Lukuraku attack. I think I will add one triple turret and fudge the tonnage just a bit . . .
Ship: KG's Request V2.0
Class: KG's Request V2.0
Type: Fast Courier
Architect: David Shayne
Tech Level: 15
USP
CL-2461661-030000-20002-0 MCr 171.250 200 Tons
Bat Bear 2 2 2 Crew: 5
Bat 2 2 2 TL: 15
Cargo: 5.000 Fuel: 126.000 EP: 12.000 Agility: 1 Pulse Lasers
Architects Fee: MCr 1.713 Cost in Quantity: MCr 137.000
Dave: That fuel reduction is not unique to MT; it is the major difference between FF&S1 (5xJD) and FF&S2 (10%xJN).
Bk 2 can't do a 400 Td due to bridge.
Bk2 can't do a 200 Td due to bridge and PPFuel. "Fix" those, and you can get down a ways with Bk2 drives. Which you can use in HG designs.
some scratchings of a variant Bk2 universe with those two "Fixes"
200Td
JDrive F 35Td (165)
MDB 3Td (162)
TL15 HG Fusion 6 = 12 Td (150)
Model 6 Computer, 7Td (143)
PPF per HG rates of 0.01MPn: 12TD (131)
JFuel: 120 (11)
Req Crew 3, all need BWS at 1Td Ea... 3Td (8)
2 SR, 8Td, DO. (0)
No turrets, no cargo.
The only thing variant here is the Bridge tonnage. Hybrid HG/Bk2 designs are allowed. [Bk 5, p. 22, end of 1st PP in "Drives:"]
Bk 2 can't do a 400 Td due to bridge.
Bk2 can't do a 200 Td due to bridge and PPFuel. "Fix" those, and you can get down a ways with Bk2 drives. Which you can use in HG designs.
some scratchings of a variant Bk2 universe with those two "Fixes"
200Td
JDrive F 35Td (165)
MDB 3Td (162)
TL15 HG Fusion 6 = 12 Td (150)
Model 6 Computer, 7Td (143)
PPF per HG rates of 0.01MPn: 12TD (131)
JFuel: 120 (11)
Req Crew 3, all need BWS at 1Td Ea... 3Td (8)
2 SR, 8Td, DO. (0)
No turrets, no cargo.
The only thing variant here is the Bridge tonnage. Hybrid HG/Bk2 designs are allowed. [Bk 5, p. 22, end of 1st PP in "Drives:"]
