AnotherDilbert
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Included by default in LBB5'79 drives.
Ship Construction Times
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AnotherDilbert
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At TL-15, yes.
Compare size and cost at TL-11 for the Scout, or TL-9 for the Free Trader...
LBB5 Free Trader with LBB2 drives (122 Dt payload for MCr 48.7):
Code:
USP # Dton Cost
Hull, Streamlined Custom 2 200
Configuration Cone 2 22
Scoops Streamlined 0,2
Jump Drive A 1 1 10 10
Manoeuvre D A 1 1 1 4
Power Plant A 1 1 4 8
Fuel, #J, #weeks J-1, 4 weeks 1 30
Bridge 1 20 1
Computer m/1 1 1 1 2
Staterooms 3 12 1,5
Cargo 122
Nominal Cost MCr 48,70 Sum: 122 48,7LBB5 Free Trader with LBB5 drives (131 Dt payload for MCr 66.7):
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USP # Dton Cost
Hull, Streamlined Custom 2 200
Configuration Cone 2 22
Scoops Streamlined 0,2
Jump Drive 1 1 4 16
Manoeuvre D 1 1 4 6
Power Plant 1 1 6 18
Fuel, #J, #weeks J-1, 4 weeks 1 22
Bridge 1 20 1
Computer m/1 1 1 1 2
Staterooms 3 12 1,5
Cargo 131
Nominal Cost MCr 66,70 Sum: 131 66,7
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No, I did that calc at TL9-12 (3% per Pn) (100Td, Pn=2 => 6Td power plant)
Thanks!
AnotherDilbert
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Not just cost, but the resulting operating cost per ton of payload. The Type S is really screwed over by the 10Td/Pn rule... and while you can build a 6G non-starship in LBB2, it's pretty much useless. Try it! At least you can use a standard hull...
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AnotherDilbert
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Agreed. The Scout may be a special case as it's never going to be profitable, it's more about the cheapest price to get into space.
I believe that's the point: Small ships are supposed to be inefficient in LBB2, punished by the fixed tonnages, like the bridge and PP fuel.
LBB5 eased up on that punishment.
Worse than a Ship's Boat at over thrice the tonnage and twice the cost, no thanks...and while you can build a 6G non-starship in LBB2, it's pretty much useless. Try it! At least you can use a standard hull...
AnotherDilbert
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So, compare a LBB2 Scout vs. a LBB5 Scoutish:
LBB2 (20 Dt payload @ MCr 27):
LBB5 (36 Dt payload @ MCr 38):
The LBB5 Scoutish costs more to buy and more to operate, but less per Dt payload.
If you try to operate it as a Merchant, it will lose more money per jump.
LBB2 (20 Dt payload @ MCr 27):
Code:
SC-12222R1-000000-00000-0 MCr 27,0 100 Dton
bearing Crew=1
batteries TL=9
Cargo=20 Fuel=40 EP=2 Agility=2
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Estimated Economy of Ship Standard
Ship price Down Payment Mortgage Avg Filled
MCr 27,00 kCr 5 400 kCr 113 80%
Expenses per jump Revenue
Bank Cr 54 000 High Cr 0
Fuel Cr 4 000 Middle Cr 0
Life Support Cr 2 000 Low Cr 0
Salaries Cr 2 400 Cargo Cr 16 000
Maintenance Cr 1 080
Berthing Cr 100
Summa kCr 64 kCr 16
Income potential per jump kCr -48
Yearly yield on down payment -22,0%LBB5 (36 Dt payload @ MCr 38):
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SC-16222R1-000000-00000-0 MCr 37,7 100 Dton
bearing Crew=1
batteries TL=11
Cargo=36 Fuel=22 EP=2 Agility=2
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Estimated Economy of Ship Standard
Ship price Down Payment Mortgage Avg Filled
MCr 37,70 kCr 7 541 kCr 157 80%
Expenses per jump Revenue
Bank Cr 75 408 High Cr 0
Fuel Cr 2 200 Middle Cr 0
Life Support Cr 2 000 Low Cr 0
Salaries Cr 2 400 Cargo Cr 28 000
Maintenance Cr 1 508
Berthing Cr 100
Summa kCr 84 kCr 28
Income potential per jump kCr -56
Yearly yield on down payment -18,4%The LBB5 Scoutish costs more to buy and more to operate, but less per Dt payload.
If you try to operate it as a Merchant, it will lose more money per jump.
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