AnotherDilbert
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Included by default in LBB5'79 drives.
Ship Construction Times
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AnotherDilbert
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At TL-15, yes.
Compare size and cost at TL-11 for the Scout, or TL-9 for the Free Trader...
LBB5 Free Trader with LBB2 drives (122 Dt payload for MCr 48.7):
Code:
USP # Dton Cost
Hull, Streamlined Custom 2 200
Configuration Cone 2 22
Scoops Streamlined 0,2
Jump Drive A 1 1 10 10
Manoeuvre D A 1 1 1 4
Power Plant A 1 1 4 8
Fuel, #J, #weeks J-1, 4 weeks 1 30
Bridge 1 20 1
Computer m/1 1 1 1 2
Staterooms 3 12 1,5
Cargo 122
Nominal Cost MCr 48,70 Sum: 122 48,7LBB5 Free Trader with LBB5 drives (131 Dt payload for MCr 66.7):
Code:
USP # Dton Cost
Hull, Streamlined Custom 2 200
Configuration Cone 2 22
Scoops Streamlined 0,2
Jump Drive 1 1 4 16
Manoeuvre D 1 1 4 6
Power Plant 1 1 6 18
Fuel, #J, #weeks J-1, 4 weeks 1 22
Bridge 1 20 1
Computer m/1 1 1 1 2
Staterooms 3 12 1,5
Cargo 131
Nominal Cost MCr 66,70 Sum: 131 66,7
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No, I did that calc at TL9-12 (3% per Pn) (100Td, Pn=2 => 6Td power plant)
Thanks!
AnotherDilbert
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Not just cost, but the resulting operating cost per ton of payload. The Type S is really screwed over by the 10Td/Pn rule... and while you can build a 6G non-starship in LBB2, it's pretty much useless. Try it! At least you can use a standard hull...
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AnotherDilbert
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Agreed. The Scout may be a special case as it's never going to be profitable, it's more about the cheapest price to get into space.
I believe that's the point: Small ships are supposed to be inefficient in LBB2, punished by the fixed tonnages, like the bridge and PP fuel.
LBB5 eased up on that punishment.
Worse than a Ship's Boat at over thrice the tonnage and twice the cost, no thanks...and while you can build a 6G non-starship in LBB2, it's pretty much useless. Try it! At least you can use a standard hull...
AnotherDilbert
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So, compare a LBB2 Scout vs. a LBB5 Scoutish:
LBB2 (20 Dt payload @ MCr 27):
LBB5 (36 Dt payload @ MCr 38):
Note the added tonnage of the fuel purifier.
The LBB5 Scoutish costs more to buy and more to operate, but less per Dt payload.
If you try to operate it as a Merchant, it will lose more money per jump.
LBB2 (20 Dt payload @ MCr 27):
Code:
SC-12222R1-000000-00000-0 MCr 27,0 100 Dton
bearing Crew=1
batteries TL=9
Cargo=20 Fuel=40 EP=2 Agility=2
Code:
Single Occupancy LBB2 design 20 30
USP # Dton Cost
Hull, Streamlined 100 Dt 1 100
Configuration Cone 2 3
Scoops Streamlined
Jump Drive A 2 1 10 10
Manoeuvre D A 2 1 1 4
Power Plant A 2 1 4 8
Fuel, #J, #weeks J-2, 4 weeks 2 40
Bridge 1 20 0,5
Computer m/1bis R 1 1 4
Staterooms 1 4 0,5
Cargo 20
Nominal Cost MCr 30,00 Sum: 20 30
Class Cost MCr 3,30 Valid ≥0 ≥0
Ship Cost MCr 27,00
Crew & High 0 Crew Bridge 1
Passengers Mid 0 1 Engineers 0
Low 0 Gunners 0
Extra SR 0 Frozen Service 0
# Frozen W 0 0 Flight 0
Marines 0 Marines 0
Code:
Estimated Economy of Ship Standard
Ship price Down Payment Mortgage Avg Filled
MCr 27,00 kCr 5 400 kCr 113 80%
Expenses per jump Revenue
Bank Cr 54 000 High Cr 0
Fuel Cr 4 000 Middle Cr 0
Life Support Cr 2 000 Low Cr 0
Salaries Cr 2 400 Cargo Cr 16 000
Maintenance Cr 1 080
Berthing Cr 100
Summa kCr 64 kCr 16
Income potential per jump kCr -48
Yearly yield on down payment -22,0%LBB5 (36 Dt payload @ MCr 38):
Code:
SC-16222R1-000000-00000-0 MCr 37,7 100 Dton
bearing Crew=1
batteries TL=11
Cargo=36 Fuel=22 EP=2 Agility=2
Code:
Single Occupancy 36 47,1
USP # Dton Cost
Hull, Streamlined Custom 1 100
Configuration Flattened Sphe 6 8
Scoops Streamlined 0,1
Jump Drive 2 1 3 12
Manoeuvre D A 2 1 1 4
Power Plant 2 1 6 18
Fuel, #J, #weeks J-2, 4 weeks 2 22
Purifier 1 7 0,0
Bridge 1 20 0,5
Computer m/1bis R 1 1 4
Staterooms 1 4 0,5
Cargo 36
Nominal Cost MCr 47,13 Sum: 36 47,1
Class Cost MCr 9,90 Valid ≥0 ≥0
Ship Cost MCr 37,70
Crew & High 0 Crew Bridge 1
Passengers Mid 0 1 Engineers 0
Low 0 Gunners 0
Extra SR 0 Frozen Service 0
# Frozen W 0 0 Flight 0
Marines 0 Marines 0
Code:
Estimated Economy of Ship Standard
Ship price Down Payment Mortgage Avg Filled
MCr 37,70 kCr 7 541 kCr 157 80%
Expenses per jump Revenue
Bank Cr 75 408 High Cr 0
Fuel Cr 2 200 Middle Cr 0
Life Support Cr 2 000 Low Cr 0
Salaries Cr 2 400 Cargo Cr 28 000
Maintenance Cr 1 508
Berthing Cr 100
Summa kCr 84 kCr 28
Income potential per jump kCr -56
Yearly yield on down payment -18,4%The LBB5 Scoutish costs more to buy and more to operate, but less per Dt payload.
If you try to operate it as a Merchant, it will lose more money per jump.
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