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Spinward Traveller

I suppose most here will have heard of this already but if you haven't check here for the new Marc Miller produced Traveller TV pilot being Kickstarted, new video looks great:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/d20e/spinward-traveller-tv-pilot

https://www.facebook.com/SpinwardTraveller?fref=ts

Get the word around please this really needs to be made!

[Edit: Mods do we need to have a separate section here about this wonderful new show? I really think so!]
Well, it looks a billion times better than all that Star Terk nonsense. I dunno if it will ever get anywhere, though I enthusiastically Kickstarted the Elite sequel and indeed bought T5. But just seeing Marc talking about the best game of all time, in those clips, was a high point of the 32 years I've spent playing Traveller. Thanks for the stars you gave us, Marc!

(And lovely quote, Tobias - I'm nicking that).
 
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Ghost in the Shell is a mature audience anime, the first movie was rated R.

I watched .hack//sign on Adult Swim... but it was more high school level.
 
I'm sorry, I know it's a work in progress, but I'm still struggling with the acting and the plot, or at least the bit revealed so far. I can live with the rest - Dr. Who and Blake's 7 did quite well with very little, though American audiences are a bit more demanding production-wise. However, both shows had acting that drew you into the plot, even if the plot was sometimes difficult to swallow.

The one good actor is the guy they kidnapped - which is a plot device I don't understand as it stretches credulity that you could kidnap someone and then expect them to be good at haggling for you at the next port. I suspect there's some element that better explains it that hasn't been shown yet. I hope there is.

Captain has potential and will likely slide into it once she's had some time in the role, but she's not quite there yet. The rest: well, not so much. Good fan-fic actors, but they look and feel like actors reading someone else's lines; they're wearing the role instead of living it. I'm an old-school gamer; I'd sit the cast down at a table and make them roleplay their characters through several adventures a couple nights a week for a couple or three months until they started really caring about who the character is and what happens to him/her, how they think and feel, how they react to different situations, how they react to each other. Or else put the script aside and have the actors do a lot of improv exercises together, tossing situations at them and having the actors try to think and respond as their characters would. You can return to the script once the actors have a solid feel for who the character is. Think of it as trying to find a way to take a shortcut past the first season of ST:NG and getting to the point where the actors and writers feel more like a family.

There's potential here, but it's not going to draw interest unless the actors can make the audience feel they're real. These are demos; it is understood that the actors haven't had a chance to really show their skills yet, though that "kidnapped" guy is already showing he knows his business. Still, these are the demos by which they hope to draw starting capital; the actors have to be the selling point.

As to the droid: there's no logic in a perfect simulate that blows its cover when it opens its mouth. She's acting like a stereotypical android. She needs to act like a stereotypical person - and I do mean stereotypical: she'd be programmed to behave the way some team of programmers think people behave. If someone builds a perfect replica of a person, that someone codes in their idea of how a person behaves and speaks, and they put as much attention into the coding as they put into the appearance. Consider the effort the Japanese are putting into androids that can interact with people. The only clue that she's a simulate would be that she might have difficulty understanding humor, double entendres and such, and as a bot programmed to follow instructions, she'd be lacking personal preferences or a will of her own and she'd perhaps be a little too compliant, a little too patient,- right up to the instant her programming tells her to do different, at which point all bets are off. Of all the actors, she is the only one who needs to look like she's an actor acting a role, because she is ultimately a machine trying very hard to act like a person.
 
My thoughts

I'm an old-school gamer; I'd sit the cast down at a table and make them roleplay their characters through several adventures a couple nights a week for a couple or three months until they started really caring about who the character is and what happens to him/her, how they think and feel, how they react to different situations, how they react to each other.

Consider the effort the Japanese are putting into androids that can interact with people. The only clue that she's a simulate would be that she might have difficulty understanding humor, double entendres and such, and as a bot programmed to follow instructions, she'd be lacking personal preferences or a will of her own and she'd perhaps be a little too compliant, a little too patient,- right up to the instant her programming tells her to do different, at which point all bets are off.
YES!
IF the actors were first players of a team trying to pull this off in a game then they would become a team for the show.
AND
A female "Data" (with better looking complexion) may work better than what they seem to have.
 
I'm sorry, I know it's a work in progress, but I'm still struggling with the acting and the plot, or at least the bit revealed so far. I can live with the rest - Dr. Who and Blake's 7 did quite well with very little, though American audiences are a bit more demanding production-wise. However, both shows had acting that drew you into the plot, even if the plot was sometimes difficult to swallow.

The one good actor is the guy they kidnapped - which is a plot device I don't understand as it stretches credulity that you could kidnap someone and then expect them to be good at haggling for you at the next port. I suspect there's some element that better explains it that hasn't been shown yet. I hope there is.

**** Of all the actors, she is the only one who needs to look like she's an actor acting a role, because she is ultimately a machine trying very hard to act like a person.

I like every word of this post, I cut it just for space. I wish I had written it in addition to my post.
 
I suppose most here will have heard of this already but if you haven't check here for the new Marc Miller produced Traveller TV pilot being Kickstarted, new video looks great:

You really think it looks great? It looks like an average fan movie to me, not even of a quality for the cheapest of productions on the Syfy channel.

The only way I'd watch this is if it were free, out of my curiosity and love of Traveller. Even then, I'd give it just a bit to catch me, and if it didn't, I'd change the channel/log off.

Not trying to sound like a butt head here. I'm just being honest about my reaction as I've seen fan movies for Star Trek, Star Wars, and Lord of the Rings that are much, much better.
 
The cast looks cheesy.

You know, there's a disadvantage in GURPS that's called Weirdness Magnet? That's the first thing I thought of when I saw a Zhodani on an Imperial ship (a pirate ship at that!) and a human-looking android supposedly in the same crew. Also, someone named Jon Spinward? It's just awkward and sounds like Captain America. Well I guess there are people named Jon West in real life, but that's no excuse.

Though I can still hope that the Zho either has a plausible story or isn't actually a crew member, and that the robot is supposed to pass for human at first and be revealed as a robot later... And that "Spinward" is a nickname.
 
Having looked at the clips I'm going to say one thing:

Most of the money, if any, they raise needs to be spent on a good camera person. Not the equipment, not the cgi, not the make-up or special effects, just someone who knows how to frame a shot and not cut the tops of characters heads off when they are delivering a line.

A good camera person who can set up a shot, direct a little, grab extra useful footage and works well with actors is worth their weight in gold.

Actually I have to say the Aslan is quite good, very much in keeping with the original alien module cover art. But if I was the person doing wardrobe and the set dresser I'd make everything a bit grimier like a Far Trader should be and throw out the shiny fabric.

But at the end of they day we have a phrase we use, when we make suggestions about improvements or realism or anything on set, that gets shot down: "The Director has a vision" :rolleyes: And there's no changing that.
 
No offense to anyone in the production company nor those dedicated to getting Spinward Traveller project funded but just one thing.

There has already been a Traveller-based film, that evolving from a Traveller-based TV series.

It was the motion picture Serenity by Joss Whedon, from his well-received television serial, Firefly.
 
No offense to anyone in the production company nor those dedicated to getting Spinward Traveller project funded but just one thing.

There has already been a Traveller-based film, that evolving from a Traveller-based TV series.

It was the motion picture Serenity by Joss Whedon, from his well-received television serial, Firefly.
While it's extremely likely (I go through in detail about it on in an answer at RPG.Stackexchange.com, it's not proven.

And the Firefly 'verse, if it is Traveller, is a SEVERELY alternate TU. Meanwhile, Spinward Traveller is supposedly either OTU or very close to it.
 
.....And the Firefly 'verse, if it is Traveller, is a SEVERELY alternate TU. Meanwhile, Spinward Traveller is supposedly either OTU or very close to it.

No disputing that, more my meaning that Joss Whedon's 'verse is more the feel and spirit of Traveller than say, the myriad Star Wars settings are such.

The Firefly 'verse does capture the gritty texture of the frontier 'badlands' where the weight and presence of authority is lessened by their absence and indifference.

When a film or television serial gets too uniform heavy then it's just an undeclared Star Trek or Babylon 5 knock-off, deference due to both on their merits all the same.
 
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