The Economy of the Imperium
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Condottiere
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Or all the tea in China.
A case where the benefits to Japan were pretty negligible. It caused a major bout of inflation, major social changes, and triggered much internal dissent...
Only the US benefitted. And then, not much. Japan didn't have much to trade.
Not a great example.
Just some comments on this:
1) I guess Aslan practice some kind of carniculture to support their larger populations. Also, thir lower capacity to maintain themselves in HiPop probably means trade with agricultural worlds is more important for them than for humans. Probably the prices list (if you use any system where prices difer on what you trade, not MP, where all are equal) should be altered for them
2) when you say they won't favor water worlds, I don't seew why not, I guess they can eat fish, as most (if not all) carnivores in Earth, and a water world can have lots of it. In fact, ITTR one aslan world was described as having only one industry: acuaculture.
And see that all this would also apply for Vargr..
Any reference about seafood being low status among Aslan, or just you guess?
Enoki
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I could see a large, very large meat production industry with the Aslan. I'd also think that farms would be necessary to produce plants (assuming that herbivores are the preferred meat source). I could also see being the equivalent of a "dirt farmer" (that is someone who grows plants for the meat processing industry) to be considered insulting and menial.
If the Aslan, like many felines on Earth, lack certain taste buds like "sweet" they might not want to eat something like candy or sugary treats. To them these might be something akin to eating wallpaper paste would be to us.
With keener senses of smell, a race might want stuff that gives off strong odors. These could be of the reeking, nasty sort to humans...
It could be that say, the Aslan prefer something that reeks, is very salty, and otherwise bland and flavorless. For them this is very tasty food and considered excellent while for those who aren't Aslan have to try and force this vile substance down (assuming it's edible to multiple groups).
If the Aslan, like many felines on Earth, lack certain taste buds like "sweet" they might not want to eat something like candy or sugary treats. To them these might be something akin to eating wallpaper paste would be to us.
With keener senses of smell, a race might want stuff that gives off strong odors. These could be of the reeking, nasty sort to humans...
It could be that say, the Aslan prefer something that reeks, is very salty, and otherwise bland and flavorless. For them this is very tasty food and considered excellent while for those who aren't Aslan have to try and force this vile substance down (assuming it's edible to multiple groups).
Timerover51
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With respect to Water Worlds, given the Aslan emphasis on the holding of land, I cannot see how they would be able to have a large population on Water Worlds, as that means that less than 5 percent of the surface is land. That does not leave a lot of room for large landholdings. If the land mass is concentrated into one area, there may enough level land for some Aslan, but it the land is broken up into a large number of small islands, I simply cannot see that many Aslan as being there. Vargr might have more, but again, adequate land surface is going to be a major issue.
I always love this subject, and when I dig into it I use gross population as my core mechanic, from there one can assign ratios of population to areas of interest to estimate economic activity. simple...
Note there are seeming lots of little details like actual credit costs of capital goods etc. etc... being as the the provided numbers in text are all arbitrary and unrelated to each other the ratio of population to hard economic terms are a function that please each individual writer....
Note there are seeming lots of little details like actual credit costs of capital goods etc. etc... being as the the provided numbers in text are all arbitrary and unrelated to each other the ratio of population to hard economic terms are a function that please each individual writer....
Timerover51
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For lower Tech Level planets with populations under 100 million or so, I run through the CIA World Factbook, and see what country I can find with somewhat similar characteristics in terms of population and what they can produce on their own in terms of technology, and then see how the per capita income looks. If I use the current one, I generally will divide the per capita income by 6 to get back to approximately 1978 or so dollars. Otherwise, I use the 1982 edition and divide by 1.5 to allow for the high inflation in the early 1980s.
If nothing else, I think that I am at least basing the income on some hard data, and not just picking figures off of the ceiling. That gets me covered through Tech Level 8 or 9, depending on what level you would consider us at presently.
If nothing else, I think that I am at least basing the income on some hard data, and not just picking figures off of the ceiling. That gets me covered through Tech Level 8 or 9, depending on what level you would consider us at presently.
Timerover51
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As this is a discussion of the economy of the Imperium, I thought that this might be useful to some of the forum. It is a description of the terms for oil concessions by the Albanian government in 1918. I found it in a study by Enemy Oil Committee of the U. S. Quartermaster General in World War 2.
I knew that Albania produced oil from reading the Ciano Diaries, but this gives quantities. Production average 2,557 barrels of oil per day of poor-quality oil, but for Italy, every drop counted.
I knew that Albania produced oil from reading the Ciano Diaries, but this gives quantities. Production average 2,557 barrels of oil per day of poor-quality oil, but for Italy, every drop counted.
If human histroy has to serve as a lesson (a great if), what is low status food and what is luxury hault cuissine changes with time, as availability and (to a point) fashion changes.
Seafood was once low status food, while now is luxury (at least in my land).
As an example, one of the typical dishes in the Costa Brava (NE coast of Catalonia) is what is called Mar i muntanya (literaly Sea and mountain), that is a combination of chicken and prawns. Its origin was among the fishers when there was not enough chicken to feed all the family, so they added prawns, that were cheaper, as they fished them themselves. Of course, that seems absurd to nowdays people, when you compare the prices...
Good point. I centered my thoughts in food production and forgot about the Aslan territorial instinct...
Same thing in the US. Lobster had a bad reputation among the first settlers of North America as the poor man’s protein. Dirt-cheap because they were plentiful, lobsters were fed to prisoners and slaves. It wasn't until the late 19th century that lobster's reputation changed.
sure. but given aslans' reputation for battle, cleos, dominance/submission, and vast land-holdings for the purposes of hunting, can't see them settling for mere fish, tasty or no. seems to me they'd view fish as squatter/refugee/survival/technician food.
'course, haven't read the aslan alien modules. right, wrong, stupid, good guess?
Condottiere
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Cultural evolution, are the Aslan capable of it, or even want to, considering the galaxy is big and there's nothing forcing them to adapt.
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