The Imperial Corridor Fleet

[savage]

Well, that will make it all that much harder to do a good job on their ships.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
I cannot argue with that logic. Well said.

 

[Drakon]

It's quite possible that there wasn't any Duke of Lemish. This is all MT information, and Lemish Subsector is pretty weak for a duchy. Though it's also quite possible that there was one, if the MT writers didn't realize that. Or maybe nothing was said one way or another.


Hans

That is my question, what is said about the duke of Lemish at this time, during the attack, in the canonical material. It is his capital that is being smashed and glassed.

Did he join the fleet, abandon his post to go fight the Rebellion under Lucan's banner? Did he die in the bombardment? If so, valiantly, or not?

So far I discovered that it was the planetary governor who told the Vargr to get stuffed, which led to the first apocalypse. Unfortunately, I discovered this after I decided the baron was also planetary governor, so I need to work out how to pick up the pieces afterwards. Traveller wiki tells me that during the Hard Times (1130) Lemish starport gets smashed to a class D, from class A earlier.

But there is a lot of the Rebellion material I do not have. I worry that I will miss something.

 

[savage]

That is my question, what is said about the duke of Lemish at this time, during the attack, in the canonical material. It is his capital that is being smashed and glassed.

Did he join the fleet, abandon his post to go fight the Rebellion under Lucan's banner? Did he die in the bombardment? If so, valiantly, or not?

So far I discovered that it was the planetary governor who told the Vargr to get stuffed, which led to the first apocalypse. Unfortunately, I discovered this after I decided the baron was also planetary governor, so I need to work out how to pick up the pieces afterwards. Traveller wiki tells me that during the Hard Times (1130) Lemish starport gets smashed to a class D, from class A earlier.

But there is a lot of the Rebellion material I do not have. I worry that I will miss something.

Good premise. It's not a full subsector. Probably a Count or two. But we don't know so, write it however you want it.

 

[ken at sunrise]

That is my question, what is said about the duke of Lemish at this time, during the attack, in the canonical material. It is his capital that is being smashed and glassed.

I'd like to ask the same question about the Duke of Plunge. Especially since a few posts ago someone said they'd be at the head of the attack. I've been working on a back story for him and his relationship with the Vagr including career, etc...

I haven't been following this thread but I think I should start from the top.

Ken at Sunrise
Count of Khouth
Duke of Plunge
and other worlds...

P.S. I do not run! I think? If there isn't cannon it's my story to tell, hehe......

 

[savage]

I'd like to ask the same question about the Duke of Plunge. Especially since a few posts ago someone said they'd be at the head of the attack. I've been working on a back story for him and his relationship with the Vagr including career, etc...

I haven't been following this thread but I think I should start from the top.

Ken at Sunrise
Count of Khouth
Duke of Plunge
and other worlds...

P.S. I do not run! I think? If there isn't cannon it's my story to tell, hehe......

In summary,
Plunge is at the head of the Main Commerce route, per DPG, with the Vargr in Corridor sector. It was the first place the Vargr noticed defenses we're weakened with the recall of the Fleet.

A good Dukedom. Two very good fiefs.

 

[savage]

Kickstarter Nobles of Corridor
Coreward
Count of Irasumshu E554A74-6, CORR0417 Jazzlvarz
Viscount of Corridor 1105 Mount A675887-8, Dagrill
Viscount of Courage E40088C-7 CORR1207, LtHavoc
Count of KHOUTH, A8C3999-D, CORR0104 Ken at Sunrise
Duke of PLUNGE, B5409CC-C, CORR2505 Ken at Sunrise
Baron Harry of LEMISH A79568C-C CORR1808 Drakon
Baron of Betters DA87544-5 CORR3030, ergodicity
Lord John of Depot, Lord Adm CORR FLT KSC KB, A686354-E CORR1511, Savage
Saarriiu of Depot, 50 KB A686354-E CORR1511, Savage

Rimward
Knight of Inarli, B677989-C, CORR2137, Magnus Von Thornwood
Viscount, Knighthood of ABOVE A725885-D, CORR3232 Lore

 

[ken at sunrise]

In summary,
Plunge is at the head of the Main Commerce route, per DPG, with the Vargr in Corridor sector. It was the first place the Vargr noticed defenses we're weakened with the recall of the Fleet.

A good Dukedom. Two very good fiefs.

Cool and! This actually is part of the back story I'm working on. Although Humaniti my named Knighthood is on Gvadh Dagudashaag 0906. A place where Humaniti is in the minority (and not trusted) and Vargr is the majority. In the story I'm working on, the reason for the Knighthood is because of a compromise that averted a war/rebellion, etc. He (I) became respected by the Imperium and Vargr (actually liked and trusted) both. Because this success culminated at sunrise Emperor Stephon used an ancient name and grated me Sir Cinaed of Sunrise of Gavd.

After some other intrigue and my working with the Vargr another Boon was granted, Count of Khough. Later because of my handling of affairs on Khouth an in no small part my relationship with the Vargr (and other stuff in the story) another Boon was granted, Duke of Plunge. There is more in between and after. Able to navigate politics, space battles, negotiations, clandestant intrigue...

Oh and he (my character) survives, moves on and finally retires on another world.

What do you think so far?

 

[savage]

Kickstarter Nobles of Corridor
Coreward
Count of Irasumshu E554A74-6, CORR0417 Jazzlvarz
Viscount of Corridor 1105 Mount A675887-8, Dagrill
Viscount of Courage E40088C-7 CORR1207, LtHavoc
Count of KHOUTH, A8C3999-D, CORR0104 Ken at Sunrise
Duke of PLUNGE, B5409CC-C, CORR2505 Ken at Sunrise
Baron Harry of LEMISH, A79568C-C CORR1808 Drakon
Viscount Gravista, C553859-4, CORR 2405, Vargr Breath
Lord John of Depot, Lord Adm CORR FLT KSC KB, A686354-E CORR1511, Savage
Saarriiu of Depot, 50 KB A686354-E CORR1511, Savage

Rimward
Baron of Betters DA87544-5 CORR3030, ergodicity
Knight of Inarli, B677989-C, CORR2137, Magnus Von Thornwood
Viscount, Knighthood of ABOVE A725885-D, CORR3232 Lore

 

[Drakon]

Cool and! This actually is part of the back story I'm working on. Although Humaniti my named Knighthood is on Gvadh Dagudashaag 0906. I place where Humaniti is the minority (and not trusted) and Vagr is the majority. In the story I'm working on, the reason for the Knighthood is because or a comprise that averted a war/rebellion, etc. He became respected by the Imperium and Vagr (actually liked and trusted) both. Because this success culminated at sunrise Emperor Stephon used an ancient name and grated me Sir Cinaed of Sunrise of Gavd.

After some other intrigue and my working with the Vagr another Boon was granted, Count of Khough. Because of my handling of affairs on Khouth an in no small part my relationship with the Vagr (and other stuff in the story) another Boon as granted, Duke of Plunge. There is more in between and after. Able to navigate politics, space battles, negotiations, clandestant intrigue...

Oh and he (my character) survives, moves on and finally retires on another world.

What do you think so far?

Sounds fantastic and interesting. You sound like a good diplomat and politician. Were you born to the nobility or had it thrust upon you?

 

[Drakon]

Good premise. It's not a full subsector. Probably a Count or two. But we don't know so, write it however you want it.

My big worry is that I write up something concerning the duke of Lemish, and then someone pops up with the ducal patent and I will have to retconn. I am trying to avoid that or stepping on anyone else's toes.

This is a big reason I decided the baron was also planetary governor. To avoid stepping on anyone's toes when worldbuilding. That and the notation in the BBB that pop 4 5 6 worlds are "The initial steps of creating a colony." Well, also means I do not have to write up another NPC. And sets up a whole series of "Yes Minister" like stories.

But the patent cards that Marc is handing out adds another dimension to all this. While the patents complicates things, it allows a degree of interaction and mutual assistance in creating the stories and adventures of this next generation of Traveller.

I can write up the worlds of Lemish and I feel safe with Weyland as well, since it is owned by a Lemishi corporation. But I don't feel good about defining or writing up material that involves anyone else's patent.

 

[savage]

My big worry is that I write up something concerning the duke of Lemish, and then someone pops up with the ducal patent and I will have to retconn. I am trying to avoid that or stepping on anyone else's toes.

This is a big reason I decided the baron was also planetary governor. To avoid stepping on anyone's toes when worldbuilding. That and the notation in the BBB that pop 4 5 6 worlds are "The initial steps of creating a colony." Well, also means I do not have to write up another NPC. And sets up a whole series of "Yes Minister" like stories.

But the patent cards that Marc is handing out adds another dimension to all this. While the patents complicate things, it allows a degree of interaction and mutual assistance in creating the stories and adventures of this next generation of Traveller.

I can write up the worlds of Lemish and I feel safe with Weyland as well, since it is owned by a Lemishi corporation. But I don't feel good about defining or writing up material that involves anyone else's patent.

IYTU you can do as you wish and share your work with everyone.
Lemish Nobility: Knight Baron Subsector Duke

Twophur and Khukish have subsector Dukes too.

In many cases we choose our patents. I choose Saarrii (Marquis) of Depot
and was granted it. I already had Lord (knight).
So, there is flexibility in all of this who knows maybe you can buy Dukedom or perhaps you'll like each other.

 

[Drakon]

IYTU you can do as you wish and share your work with everyone.
Lemish Nobility: Knight Baron Subsector Duke

Twophur and Khukish have subsector Dukes too.

In many cases we choose our patents. I choose Saarrii (Marquis) of Depot
and was granted it. I already had Lord (knight).
So, there is flexibility in all of this who knows maybe you can buy Dukedom or perhaps you'll like each other.

Well, my goal is to write up Lemish sufficiently to be made cannon. Still I don't feel comfortable saying what the duke did until it is resolved who it is.

Later on, I do want to obtain the knighthoods for Lemish and Weyland. I plan on handing them to my grandson a few years down the line I figure that Marc has enough on his plate at the moment, between shipping the deckplans, checking errata, paying attention to the business and such, that it can wait until later.

I imagine a subsector duke would go for quite a bit of credits.

I didn't choose my patents, fate did. I could not be happier if I tried real hard. Its inspired me to look at many different aspects of Traveller and the 3rd Imperium that I had ignored before.

 

[ken at sunrise]

I didn't choose my patents, fate did. I could not be happier if I tried real hard. Its inspired me to look at many different aspects of Traveller and the 3rd Imperium that I had ignored before.

I'll second that. My patents completely determined the direction of my campaign. Thank you Marc.

 

[savage]

Porozlo was a complete, exciting surprise which I am developing.

The depot was from my original campaign, which I am adding to the development.

The Patent cards are fun. I would not get too excited about a Subsector Duke on the same world.

 

[ken at sunrise]

Sounds fantastic and interesting. You sound like a good diplomat and politician. Were you born to the nobility or had it thrust upon you?

Well... The story so far is my parents had holdings but no nobility (that anyone was aware of); so my first title came because of the Gvadh incident. You might say it was thrust upon me or even forced.

There is a bit more intrigue in the story as to race and nobility among other things.

 

[ken at sunrise]

In summary,
Plunge is at the head of the Main Commerce route, per DPG, with the Vargr in Corridor sector. It was the first place the Vargr noticed defenses we're weakened with the recall of the Fleet.

A good Dukedom. Two very good fiefs.

Thank you, I thought they were awesome too. A few questions:

1. What is DPG
2. Where is the Rebellion Source Book?
3. And where can I get it?
4. Is the Rebellion a good source material to build a campaign too?

Thanks,

 

[Drakon]

Thank you, I thought they were awesome too. A few questions:

1. What is DPG : Digest Publishing Group, creators of a lot of good Traveller stuff, that is out of print.
2. Where is the Rebellion Source Book?: Megatraveller book written by Marc W. Miller, that details the major event at the beginning of the Rebellion. It is part of the Megatraveller material, and available via FFE.
3. And where can I get it? : FarFuture Enterprises sells CD-Roms of the Megatraveller material that Marc wrote. And also CD-Roms of all the various Traveller versions, except Mongoose and GURPS.
4. Is the Rebellion a good source material to build a campaign too?: Yes. It details what fleets were where, what the various factions are, what Lucan did to us here in Corridor.

 

[aramis]

Thank you, I thought they were awesome too. A few questions:

1. What is DPG
2. Where is the Rebellion Source Book?
3. And where can I get it?
4. Is the Rebellion a good source material to build a campaign too?

Thanks,

1. DPG is probably someone misremembering DGP - Digest Group Productions - one of the best CT 3rd-party publishers, and the guys who actually wrote MT for GDW.
2. Rebellion Source Book
3. MT CD-ROM from Far Future Enterprises, or via Drive-Thru RPG.
4. Too complex for a bullet point...

To discuss the rebellion - there really isn't enough detail to use it other than as a backdrop. There is a basic timeline, in the Hard Times supplement, and it also shows the main points of conflict, and a good bit of Newsfeed in Challenge, but the best timeline, and the real "secrets revealed," is actually labeled as a TNE supplement - Survival Margin: Gateway to the New Era. (It also bridges the gap, and introduces Virus - it generated a bit of angst and hatred. (I know my friends and I sent a "Please don't go there" letter to GDW. Too late, by far.)

However, as a setting, it's a great setting - you can literally run any kind of campaign except exploring new space, almost anywhere in the Imperium - certainly within 30 parsecs - and be justified in doing so. It opened up the setting for a wide variety of styles of play in both familiar and unfamiliar places.

And yet, it was badly mishandled. There was very little 3rd party support, almost all the 3rd party licenses were terminated or abandoned, the rules were laid out in-house by GDW, in a manner that resulted in a LOT of errors, almost no adventures were released outside of Challenge, most of the adventures didn't highlight the setting's variety.

To truly get the story of the rebellion, you need the following:

MT Player's Manual
MT Imperial Encylcopedia
MT Rebellion Sourcebook
Survival Margin

 

[mike wightman]

Or better yet skip straight to Hard Times and have real 'fun'.

 

[aramis]

Or better yet skip straight to Hard Times and have real 'fun'.

You still need all four of the same books to get the hard times story.