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Too many wedge shaped scout ships.

I started making the Fletcher a few years back but as usual, it never came to anything. It's technically only a wedge anyway:



I always wanted to make a scout out of this thing:
Image by Thierry Doizon



I always loved this little fella, aswell. I'm pretty sure it's from the Japanese version of Traveller too:

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Crow
 
I love your work. Very pretty and 'nurnie' ish.

And that Japanese one, for some reason reminds me of a dust mite - which wouldn't be a bad name for a belting craft, or an planetary ice-ring scooper/gatherer.
 
Here's some quick sketches for a LBB 2 version of a Scout/Courier I put together based on a small merchant ship design that I had posted about earlier.

(sssssnnnnniiiiiipppppp)

Anyway, just thought I'd post these to share.

Regards

PF

Personally I like this design. Consider it borrowed to "request" (admit it, beg) my Referee to let me use in our game. And if I ever run a Traveller game too.
 
When I'm bored, instead of playing sudoku, I doodle ship designs. I keep a stash of scrap paper from our office printer at my desk, a hard covered composition book at my bedside, and a mini legal pad in the loo! :eek: I usually start with a scout design, since it's my favorite 'adventurer ship'. I have at least a dozen different designs, most ripped off...er, 'inspired' by other better known ships (the Jupiter 2, ST:DS9 Runabouts, etc.). I am, of course, not satisfied with any of them. Anyone who can finish a design, draw it well enough to read clearly, and post it on the internet has my admiration. Thanks to all the starship architects out there.
 
Personally I like this design. Consider it borrowed to "request" (admit it, beg) my Referee to let me use in our game. And if I ever run a Traveller game too.

After PF mentioned the connection with the VW camper van, I am inspired to adopt this ship as a stoner-mobile. The 'crew' will inevitably use double-occupancy, at least once they have picked up a couple of hitchhikers. One or two dividing walls might have to go, and they won't need quite so many freshers. Also a G-free zone is a must. It should scrub up pretty well :D

I like the way the landing gear and the stairs down work for this. You can see it turning into a casually arranged campsite wherever it sets down.
 
For Blue Ghost

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It's "Stanley the Starship"

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Regards

PF

Heh, reminds me of PSA. Anyone here but me remember them? Oh that was a good airline.

Anyway, when my mind was more alert I would've been able to fire off a treatise on lifting bodies as I pursued an aerospace degree. As it stand now all I can say is... neato.

But, some thoughts to consider. NASA had a proposal for a gutted, wingless, "shuttle like" cargo carrier that, believe it or not, loosely (and I use that word liberally) resembled Stanley there. But, unlike Stanley, the "Shuttle-C" (I think it was called) has a few odd functionary bits and pieces here and there that evened out the design so to speak.

So, what am I saying? Rough Stanley up. And by that I don't mean give him a black eye ;)

Seriously, I'm just weary of the flying wedge. That's all :)

Flashback; http://www.skycontrol.net/airlines/...throwback-livery-aircraft-takes-to-the-skies/
 
Hi

Heh, reminds me of PSA. Anyone here but me remember them? Oh that was a good airline.

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Hey, I remeber PSA. I think that I flew them out of Bellingham, WA once.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm still learning how to use some of the graphics tools I have but hopefully I'll eventually learn how to maybe add some panel lines and other details to make the hull look a little more realistic.

In the meantime, here is a revised image of Stanley for Whipsnade, with a slightly less ominous and foreboding planet Sodor (I'm guessing, but not sure, that this was a Thomas the Tank Engine reference, so I figured the planet should be a little freindlier looking than the orange and brown image that I had before.

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Here also is a tie dyed ship for anyone looking for space hippies. Its still a little rough and fuzzy, but its a start.

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Anyway, thanks again for the feedback, and if there is anything that anyone is looking for (with respect to images of the ship or deck plan tweeks) let me know. I can't promise anything but I can try and maybe put some stuff together, as I practice with these programs.

Regards

PF

PS. Here's a jet black hull image that I put together for someone on another site, who was looking for a stealthy ship for an adventure. It still needs wotk on the textures as well, but hopefully soon I'll get the hang of it.

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I guess my thing is this, I know that when the wedge came up, Traveller was in its infancy. Like others have stated, it was a simple design, easy to calculate tonnage, players could draw it, ... it worked.

But this ain't 1977 anymore. Nor even the 1980s when I picked up the game. Surely there are some variants on a variety of themes here.

More Florians. Less wedges :)
 
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PF: I think, for me, it's just too "dirigible-like"... the wings too small, the body too wide.

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That reminds me of the aeroscraft flying yacht dirigible that I think someone posted about on one of these boards awhile ago.

I remember that when I first saw it, it kind of reminded me a little of a Type A - Free Trader, though now I can also see alot of resemblence between my small spaceship images and this craft.

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Regards

PF
 
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I showed my gamers a shot of the Ursula Campaign's rumblefish gunboat, They all thought it was the bomb.

I told them it was an old sovblock scout...Koltov class [I pulled that name from my bad organic hard drive memory...it just sounded russian].

When they asked why the tonnage was 105 tons...I misread the write up, my bad...one of my players stated loudly, "Because Russians never have anything that matches their enemies logistics", he cited the massively wide russian railroad gauge as his proof.

I let his explanation stand...it's still one of my player's all time favorite scout designs.

My kudos to it's designer, their website seems to have vanished...anyone know if they are still Travelling?
 
Haven't heard from Bryan in a long time ... hope he's okay.

A while back I asked myself why the company that designed most of the OTU small craft (those lovable flying silos) didn't decide to produce a 100dT jump capable version. So I drew one up, even made it so it could swap modules with the modular cutter.

Makes a handy scout, especially with the right module.

From there a catamaran, a trimaran, and pretty much any other multi-hull configuration was pretty easy to cobble together, sort of like the Lyrans in SFB. I'm not sure what human faction or race they should all belong to.
 
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More Florians. Less wedges :)

For my part, I actually don't like the Florian. Or more accurately, I don't like the Florian for Traveller. I think it would make a great ship for the PCs in a Star Wars or Star Frontiers RPG, but it looks out of place to me in the Traveller universe, when all the other ships have such utilitarian shapes.


Marian
 
Mind I started playing Traveller back in the LBB days so pretty 'old school' about the ship designs, that said.....

I've toyed around with using a refitted X-boat as a hull for a scout ship, the addition of an M-drive and deployable 'landing' struts and other minor modifications make such workable craft.

Concept being that surplus-retired X-boats were put into commercial service by private enterprise or taken out of mothballs and used as testbeds by the Scout Service itself.
 
For my part, I actually don't like the Florian. Or more accurately, I don't like the Florian for Traveller. I think it would make a great ship for the PCs in a Star Wars or Star Frontiers RPG, but it looks out of place to me in the Traveller universe, when all the other ships have such utilitarian shapes.


Marian

Wow, what rubs you wrong about the Florian? I think it's a great design, and have used it in some fiction that I've yet to tweak. Crow's ship looks like a cross between an SR-71, the backside of the Enterprise, and maybe even that mirrored vessel in SWEP1, again derived from the blackbird.

Me, I happen to think it's just really cool :)

p.s. magmagmag seems to be giving much needed facelifts to a lot of classic Traveller ships. Streamlining, cool looking fins/antenna, and other filigre to accentuate starshipness.

Well, my library time's about up. Talk to you all later.
 
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