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Too many wedge shaped scout ships.

Wow, what rubs you wrong about the Florian?

Like I said, it looks out of place. It's too different from everything else in the TU.

Which doesn't mean it looks bad. As I said, I think it would be great for Star Wars or Star Frontiers. In fact, I whipped up some D6 stats for it awhile back.


Marian
 
I've toyed around with using a refitted X-boat as a hull for a scout ship, the addition of an M-drive and deployable 'landing' struts and other minor modifications make such workable craft.

Concept being that surplus-retired X-boats were put into commercial service by private enterprise or taken out of mothballs and used as testbeds by the Scout Service itself.

This makes great sense. There would be a LOT of old xboats sitting around taking up space. Converting them to another use should be a lot easier than scrapping and rebuilding from scratch. hmm...

You could also rebuild the tenders, though I don't think that makes as much sense.
 
This makes great sense. There would be a LOT of old xboats sitting around taking up space. Converting them to another use should be a lot easier than scrapping and rebuilding from scratch. hmm...

Not sure how that works. If they are in good enough condition to put new drives in and then fly away, why would they be lying around taking up space?
 
You could also rebuild the tenders, though I don't think that makes as much sense.

Really? I've always thought that a surplus tender would make an *awesome* orbital warehouse/staging area a small to mid-size merchant line. Stick one of those in orbit over a world for a few months, accumulating stock while the line's fleet of Traders and Subbies handle their routes, all touching base at one point with the tender: anything that doesn't sell on one route goes into the tender-warehouse to be handled by one of the other routes. If the political sitch gets hot, the line's whole operation is jump capable: it can move to a different market. And in any case, having your fleet's factor situated in orbit might not only be safer, but it might mean less friction with the locals. Kind of like Dejima Island...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dejima
... only you own it and can take it with you.
 
Thenkyou!

I forget how much fuel those big guys carry... I seem to recall they're J-1, but if they've got extra fuel capacity, you could even use a tender as a bridge across a J-2 gap, no?
 
Agreed. Should have seen that myself... now I feel stupid! lol

No need for that, now.

Anyhow, where there's a good idea, there's someone to find ways to ruin it. Those X-Boat tenders are horribly undergunned. If word got out to competition or (ssssssshhh... pirates...) it wouldn't take much to take one down. "Look, Guys! A Piñata!"
 
Like I said, it looks out of place. It's too different from everything else in the TU.

Which doesn't mean it looks bad. As I said, I think it would be great for Star Wars or Star Frontiers. In fact, I whipped up some D6 stats for it awhile back.


Marian

Well, this brings up an interesting point, in that I always felt that Traveller was lacking in the asthetics department. When I first picked up the game I was intrigued and hooked on the aspect of gaming in a science fiction venue without all of the usual predefined images that are conjured by various media (books included). To me this was a brand new realm (and it was at the time), that begged expansion.

However, it seemed to be rather vanilla flavored. That was inentional, and the primary attraction I had for the system. But it was also a letdown because the sexiness of other science-fiction came in the form of sleek futuristic devices. But the ships seemed pretty lackluster. Hence the reason it's always been a sore point with me.

So, in that vein, this is why I really welcome Crows' Florian. To me that looks like a vessel I'd want to fly in and own (or at least get to use on lease from the scout service).

Sorry for the soap box moment. :) I totaly get what you're saying, but to me Traveller needed a bit of a makeover.
 
Plus-sized Scouts

Aside from a few exceptions that may-may not be accepted as canon, I've often wondered why the ISS limited it's scout/courier fleet to vessels of 100 tons, accepted designs of Sulieman and Serpent classes as examples.

I can see where a 200 ton ship might be of use given it's likely capacity for longer range and cargo-crew compliment offering wider missions.

Tends to make one wonder if there might be-might have been lesser know ships employed in the ISS seldom seen as commonly as the pair stated above.
 
Aside from a few exceptions that may-may not be accepted as canon, I've often wondered why the ISS limited it's scout/courier fleet to vessels of 100 tons, accepted designs of Sulieman and Serpent classes as examples.

I can see where a 200 ton ship might be of use given it's likely capacity for longer range and cargo-crew compliment offering wider missions.

Tends to make one wonder if there might be-might have been lesser know ships employed in the ISS seldom seen as commonly as the pair stated above.

Your 2nd sentence tells the story. They are only couriers. They are designed (90% anyway) to just take data & small packages from the J4 routes down to feeder routes. They aren't designed for ANY type of serious scouting duties. The IISS has larger ships for that purpose.
 
Aside from a few exceptions that may-may not be accepted as canon, I've often wondered why the ISS limited it's scout/courier fleet to vessels of 100 tons, accepted designs of Sulieman and Serpent classes as examples.
There's no real reason to beleive that the IISS does limit its scout/courier fleet to 100T ships. We just haven't seen any mention of other couriers. No doubt their J3, J4, J5, and J6 couriers are bigger. Note that we have seen mentions of Scout vessels up to the size of cruisers. Donosevs, Leviathans, AHLs.


Hans
 
Your 2nd sentence tells the story. They are only couriers. They are designed (90% anyway) to just take data & small packages from the J4 routes down to feeder routes. They aren't designed for ANY type of serious scouting duties. The IISS has larger ships for that purpose.
The designation 'Scout/Courier' indicates that they are used for scouting duites as well as for courier duties.


Hans
 
The designation 'Scout/Courier' indicates that they are used for scouting duites as well as for courier duties.


Hans

Actually, it designates the service from the original LBBs. At J2 they aren't designed for military scouting except in a very tactical sense.
 
Actually, it designates the service from the original LBBs. At J2 they aren't designed for military scouting except in a very tactical sense.
Who said anything about military scouting? I said scouting duties:

"One of the most common starships within the Imperium is the tested and tried type S scout/courier. Originally produced to specification for the Imperial Interstellar Scout Service, this sleek and simple ship was intended for common courier duties within the Imperium and simple survey and exploration duties beyond the Imperial border." [S7:15] (Emphasis mine).​


Hans
 
Who said anything about military scouting? I said scouting duties:

"One of the most common starships within the Imperium is the tested and tried type S scout/courier. Originally produced to specification for the Imperial Interstellar Scout Service, this sleek and simple ship was intended for common courier duties within the Imperium and simple survey and exploration duties beyond the Imperial border." [S7:15] (Emphasis mine).​


Hans

It's a good idea to read more than one post... ;)
 
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