Type-S schematics

[Blue Ghost]

So it appears that either the interior spaces are smaller, or the outer dimension for the type-S need to be larger. For a minute I was going to wonder how you came about your conclusion, but taking into account the tapering of the hull to the nose, both cargo and living area would be cut by the plane of the hull plates.

That's very interesting. I wonder if this is a handwave situation for gameplay. In terms of building a model, I think I have a better idea of where to start.

 

[pendragonman]

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Note that the basic hull is only 7,5 m × 27 m × 39 m / 6 ≈ 1316 m³ ≈ 94 Dt.

From Book 2, bottom of pg 21: "Finally, a leeway of plus or minus 10% to 20% should be allowed. If the final deck plans come within 20% of the tonnage of the ship specifications, then they should be considered acceptable."

So, if you want you can stretch your Type S deckplans until the interior is the way you want it, or until it is about but not over 120 Dtons on the deckplans. and it won't damage the build.

Deck plans are a role playing aid, not a blueprint for construction.

Adjust it until it fills what you need it to do.

 

[Enoki]

So it appears that either the interior spaces are smaller, or the outer dimension for the type-S need to be larger. For a minute I was going to wonder how you came about your conclusion, but taking into account the tapering of the hull to the nose, both cargo and living area would be cut by the plane of the hull plates.

That's very interesting. I wonder if this is a handwave situation for gameplay. In terms of building a model, I think I have a better idea of where to start.

It's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside...

 

[kilemall]

Are you trying to start trouble.

Look, buddy, the Type S is a great ship, good for anything you and your friends have in mind. This beauty has never been outside the quadrant, and was kept in a garage by a little old scout who only took it out on Sundays. Now, you want details on the construction of this beauty, you say? You want to know how the top deck fits in that sloping hull, you say, well, I'm telling you friend, for this price, you shouldn't be asking so many questions.
Am I right?

Reminds me of the Firefly buy scene.

https://youtu.be/nBvla0NmT8c?t=2560

 

[Blue Ghost]

It's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside...

https://youtu.be/1fnzcAFy8d8

 

[Barrel]

She'll be with you for the rest of your life

Are you trying to start trouble.

Look, buddy, the Type S is a great ship, good for anything you and your friends have in mind. This beauty has never been outside the quadrant, and was kept in a garage by a little old scout who only took it out on Sundays. Now, you want details on the construction of this beauty, you say? You want to know how the top deck fits in that sloping hull, you say, well, I'm telling you friend, for this price, you shouldn't be asking so many questions.
Am I right?

I tell you what--you buy this ship, treat her proper, she'll be with you for the rest of your life.
Skip to 2:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJBN6a4AVp4

 

[Barrel]

Reminds me of the Firefly buy scene.

https://youtu.be/nBvla0NmT8c?t=2560

Ooooh, I posted my reply before I saw yours....

 

[Ex_Pendable]

Yup, something's peeking, assuming height of deck is 2 meters. Haven't even put in the attic, although sloped ceilings are nothing new.

Spoiler:

It's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside...

Compressor field (Earth Girls are Easy, My Favorite Martian, Dr. Who S06E08 Let's Kill Hitler). In Scouts, ship fits you!

....Nope. Need a bigger ship with better geometry.

 

[Blue Ghost]

Going to scope out materials for this project. I'm thinking a heavy strong, yet thin, poster board stock.

Thanks for the help, replies, and putting up with my extremely oxidized mathematics' skills.

p.s. I know that someone did a full model with an interior one time ... I see it on the net when doing image searches every so often.

 

[pendragonman]

Going to scope out materials for this project. I'm thinking a heavy strong, yet thin, poster board stock.

Thanks for the help, replies, and putting up with my extremely oxidized mathematics' skills.

p.s. I know that someone did a full model with an interior one time ... I see it on the net when doing image searches every so often.

Most places like Hobby Lobby (a hobby store for non gamers) have packages of 20 or so backing boards for picture frames. Easily cut by exact-o knife.

 

[AnotherDilbert]

You could make it a bit higher, 9 m instead of 7.5 m:

Green is an outline of 3 m high deck.
Red is an outline of 2 m high deck.
Purple is an outline of the traditional deckplan.

As we can see the canonical deckplan can almost be 2 m high.
We even have space for the cargo hold in the aft.

Note that the basic hull is 9 m × 27 m × 39 m / 6 ≈ 1580 m³ ≈ 113 Dt.

 

[whartung]

Those images of the decks being crammed in to the hull and poking out are exactly what I was seeing before.

Going to scope out materials for this project. I'm thinking a heavy strong, yet thin, poster board stock.

Thanks for the help, replies, and putting up with my extremely oxidized mathematics' skills.

p.s. I know that someone did a full model with an interior one time ... I see it on the net when doing image searches every so often.

I hope you'll share the plans you draw up to cut out the shapes. I'd love to know the process of how to go about coming up with the measurements of the panels.

 

[Terquem]

A while back

I once started drawing up plans (in AutoCAD) for building a Lego Type S (interior only) for game play.

I was going to use a 4 x 4 stud plate as a "1.5" meter square

Once I started adding in wall thickness (a single stud brick width) the model grew far larger than I was prepared to accept.

 

[gchuck]

Scout Model

Isn't the avionics bay accessed under the control panel into a 1m tunnel?
i.e. crawlspace?

 

[Blue Ghost]

Dorsal / spinal dimension;

4.5^2 + 39^2 = h^2 => h = 39.26


Leading Edge "wing" dimension

13.5^2 + 39^2 = h^2 => h = 47.27


Trailing Edge "wing" dimension

4.5^2 + 13.5^2 = h^2 => h = 14.23


Note; I ignored significant digits, and just rounded to two places. All dimensions are in meters (metres).

 

[Ex_Pendable]

You can also find thin sheets of corrugated plastic, often used for signs at most hardware/DIY stores. A single sheet or two may give you something more durable and still light. Just avoid the large packs.

 

[aramis]

So it appears that either the interior spaces are smaller, or the outer dimension for the type-S need to be larger. For a minute I was going to wonder how you came about your conclusion, but taking into account the tapering of the hull to the nose, both cargo and living area would be cut by the plane of the hull plates.

That's very interesting. I wonder if this is a handwave situation for gameplay. In terms of building a model, I think I have a better idea of where to start.

Not really. If you look, the SR's on the plan are 6 squares, not 4 to 5 (2x2.5) as they are on some of the WHK done plans. It's simply distributing the volume differently.

Also, remember - the turret's hull extension is about 2 tons.

 

[zemjw]

The dimensions from one of the CT books whose name escapes me are: length 37.5m, width 24m, height 7.5m

I tried to build a 1:300 scale model from plasticard last year, but there were too many hypotenuses for my poor brain, especially when you have to take into account the thickness of the plasticard. It did not end well

I did build a 3d one, although I'm not overly happy with it. Unfortunately I'd probably have to remortgage the house to get it printed on Shapeways.

There are plans in various supplements, but last time I named anything commercial I got shouted at, so you'll have to track them down yourself, sorry

 

[Blue Ghost]

https://www.shapeways.com/create/tabletop-gaming

 

[Ex_Pendable]

Did a little experimenting, and came up with this:

The attic and hold are above and below the main deck's engineering section, and are enlarged. Main deck retains the standard arrangement except this is slightly shorter, with only three meters for the cockpit crawl space. I've added the forward landing pylons but will probably move them to where there is more room. The bridge viewports are channeled through the hull. I still have to do the math on this, but aside from being shorter and half a meter taller, this squashed cone has many of the same basic dimensions.