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What is SOC Below 7?
- Thread starter Jame
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Yeah - get knighted for services to the empire (as part of the game or as part of char gen), buy a suit, have elecution lessons and mix with people of Soc A and above.
Actually soc is a very English stat - people always comment that 'he tries so hard, but heill always be an upstart from the north' or words to that effect. I think its like that in the TI. Those with ancient titles have no truck with Soc 4's who discovered an ancient base and made their fortunes selling the artefacts they found. They may be Soc 11 in wealth but natural Soc 11's will always look down on them.
Actually soc is a very English stat - people always comment that 'he tries so hard, but heill always be an upstart from the north' or words to that effect. I think its like that in the TI. Those with ancient titles have no truck with Soc 4's who discovered an ancient base and made their fortunes selling the artefacts they found. They may be Soc 11 in wealth but natural Soc 11's will always look down on them.
Yeah - get knighted for services to the empire (as part of the game or as part of char gen), buy a suit, have elecution lessons and mix with people of Soc A and above.
Actually soc is a very English stat - people always comment that 'he tries so hard, but heill always be an upstart from the north' or words to that effect. I think its like that in the TI. Those with ancient titles have no truck with Soc 4's who discovered an ancient base and made their fortunes selling the artefacts they found. They may be Soc 11 in wealth but natural Soc 11's will always look down on them.
Actually soc is a very English stat - people always comment that 'he tries so hard, but heill always be an upstart from the north' or words to that effect. I think its like that in the TI. Those with ancient titles have no truck with Soc 4's who discovered an ancient base and made their fortunes selling the artefacts they found. They may be Soc 11 in wealth but natural Soc 11's will always look down on them.
CT Asu is SOC 5. Being carny / circus folk as well a Traveller tends to drive SOC down.
SOC is variable and can change if you switch jobs, get training, commit crimes, are recognized for your work, etc. . Asu for example comes from a high TL world on the Imperium side of the Rim and had a higher SOC from her family's status and her upgringing until she left her homeworld to see the 'verse at age 14.
Casey
SOC is variable and can change if you switch jobs, get training, commit crimes, are recognized for your work, etc. . Asu for example comes from a high TL world on the Imperium side of the Rim and had a higher SOC from her family's status and her upgringing until she left her homeworld to see the 'verse at age 14.
Casey
CT Asu is SOC 5. Being carny / circus folk as well a Traveller tends to drive SOC down.
SOC is variable and can change if you switch jobs, get training, commit crimes, are recognized for your work, etc. . Asu for example comes from a high TL world on the Imperium side of the Rim and had a higher SOC from her family's status and her upgringing until she left her homeworld to see the 'verse at age 14.
Casey
SOC is variable and can change if you switch jobs, get training, commit crimes, are recognized for your work, etc. . Asu for example comes from a high TL world on the Imperium side of the Rim and had a higher SOC from her family's status and her upgringing until she left her homeworld to see the 'verse at age 14.
Casey
Well, if you assume that 7 equals middle middle class (which I do, but I've had discussions with people who think it is higher than that), you have to stretch out the rest of the available social classes to cover six levels. Let's see:Originally posted by Jame]:
What are the "classes" for the SOCs below 7? Specifically, what is a "4?"
6 lower middle class
5 upper lower class
4 middle lower class
3 lower lower class
2 social outcasts
1 ?
Doesn't quite work, I know, but it's the best I can do.
Hmm. Maybe levels 5 to 9 are all middle class. They all recieve the same stat modifier, afer all. That would require splitting the middle class into five levels, but 7 would still be the exact middle, so it might work.
Hans
Well, if you assume that 7 equals middle middle class (which I do, but I've had discussions with people who think it is higher than that), you have to stretch out the rest of the available social classes to cover six levels. Let's see:Originally posted by Jame]:
What are the "classes" for the SOCs below 7? Specifically, what is a "4?"
6 lower middle class
5 upper lower class
4 middle lower class
3 lower lower class
2 social outcasts
1 ?
Doesn't quite work, I know, but it's the best I can do.
Hmm. Maybe levels 5 to 9 are all middle class. They all recieve the same stat modifier, afer all. That would require splitting the middle class into five levels, but 7 would still be the exact middle, so it might work.
Hans
That seems to be the way in real life too. Wonder why...Originally posted by Casey:
CT Asu is SOC 5. Being carny / circus folk as well a Traveller tends to drive SOC down.
Now, if someone was born SOC 4 and joined the Scouts, couldn't that make it go up? Or would that be just more of the same?SOC is variable and can change if you switch jobs, get training, commit crimes, are recognized for your work, etc. . Asu for example comes from a high TL world on the Imperium side of the Rim and had a higher SOC from her family's status and her upgringing until she left her homeworld to see the 'verse at age 14.
Casey
That seems to be the way in real life too. Wonder why...Originally posted by Casey:
CT Asu is SOC 5. Being carny / circus folk as well a Traveller tends to drive SOC down.
Now, if someone was born SOC 4 and joined the Scouts, couldn't that make it go up? Or would that be just more of the same?SOC is variable and can change if you switch jobs, get training, commit crimes, are recognized for your work, etc. . Asu for example comes from a high TL world on the Imperium side of the Rim and had a higher SOC from her family's status and her upgringing until she left her homeworld to see the 'verse at age 14.
Casey
IMTU (Where social levels go up to 33 and Imperial nobles star at level 24), an officer has an effective social level of two times his officer rank, with a minimum of 8. So a brigadeer (rank 7) would have an effective social level of 14 and a Vice Marshal (rank 11) one of 22. When an officer leaves the service, his social level becomes the average of his original one and his effective one (so if the brigadeer had started as SL4, he'd end up as SL8). Of course, if he has recieved a knighthood while in the service, that will determine his final SL. So the Vice Marshal might have recieved an Imperial baronetcy, which would make his SL 20.Originally posted by Jame]:
Now, if someone was born SOC 4 and joined the Scouts, couldn't that make it go up? Or would that be just more of the same?
Hans
IMTU (Where social levels go up to 33 and Imperial nobles star at level 24), an officer has an effective social level of two times his officer rank, with a minimum of 8. So a brigadeer (rank 7) would have an effective social level of 14 and a Vice Marshal (rank 11) one of 22. When an officer leaves the service, his social level becomes the average of his original one and his effective one (so if the brigadeer had started as SL4, he'd end up as SL8). Of course, if he has recieved a knighthood while in the service, that will determine his final SL. So the Vice Marshal might have recieved an Imperial baronetcy, which would make his SL 20.Originally posted by Jame]:
Now, if someone was born SOC 4 and joined the Scouts, couldn't that make it go up? Or would that be just more of the same?
Hans
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