Blue Darrians Petition!
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Supplement Four
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Edited post: Just me ranting again about crappy Mongoose stuff, comparing their take to Blue Darrians.
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S4,
Wait a minute now...
Is Mongoose actually planning on using the Blue Darrians? I thought they were just some personal project of Dragoner's.
A pet project for someone's personal TU is one thing, adding this gibberish to canon is something else entirely.
If Mongoose is leaning towards using these Drow ripoffs, and I've seen no evidence yet that they are, the Vetting Committee should smash the idea pretty damn quick.
Regards,
Bill
They aren't even fully developed yet past that intial thread.
I'll admit I am a wargamer at heart, moreso than a RPG'er, and I have been working on a couple of campaigns for Panzer General 2. Campaigns that take years to make (we wargamers are pretty slow moving in developing things), so these Blue Darrians and my campaign milieu are still so fresh, just in development.
I'll admit I am a wargamer at heart, moreso than a RPG'er, and I have been working on a couple of campaigns for Panzer General 2. Campaigns that take years to make (we wargamers are pretty slow moving in developing things), so these Blue Darrians and my campaign milieu are still so fresh, just in development.
Supplement Four
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They are. I think Mongoose's versions are white. My point is: The Mongoose version might as well be blue. It's the same difference. White-hair, cyber-punk, rock-n-roll Mongoose Darrians. All they're missing is blue skin.
Sorry for the confusion, folks. It was early when I wrote that post. I'll edit it.
Border Reiver
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Whoah. I only started this for a bit of a laugh. There ARE NO plans by Mongoose afaik. A different, lost phenotype from Darrian prime would be interesting imo, especially with a decent background for them.
Please don't take it too seriously.
Please don't take it too seriously.
mbrinkhues
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Actually I would prefer to change the Darrian history slightly:
The Maghiz got them all. There are only ruins left!
The Maghiz got them all. There are only ruins left!
beowulf2044
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And what of the Rasberry Red, Lemon Yellow and Orange Orange Darrians? Why are they being excluded?
BlackBat242
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And the Mocha Darrians! What about the Chocolate Darrians?
Or the Fudge Ripple and Neopolitan Darrians?
Or the Fudge Ripple and Neopolitan Darrians?
mike wightman
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Start a poll - I'd vote yes to this too
jpster
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Voted Yes
There's lots of real reasons why skin would turn blue. I'm talking no kidding, "Wow, that dude is BLUE!" blue. Environmental, medical, and a combination of those with (dare I say it) evolutionary and/or societal preference coupled with an isolated or secretive existance over generations could do the trick. Whether this is enough to consider these guys a stand-alone sub species is up to the individual ref. If Mongoose wants to capitalize on this type of distinction and roll with it, let's see what they come up with. I'm all for another avenue of inspiration.
There's lots of real reasons why skin would turn blue. I'm talking no kidding, "Wow, that dude is BLUE!" blue. Environmental, medical, and a combination of those with (dare I say it) evolutionary and/or societal preference coupled with an isolated or secretive existance over generations could do the trick. Whether this is enough to consider these guys a stand-alone sub species is up to the individual ref. If Mongoose wants to capitalize on this type of distinction and roll with it, let's see what they come up with. I'm all for another avenue of inspiration.
They are actually called Entropic Darrians, or just Entropi, Blue Darrians are just the colloquial term for them.
AFAIK Mongoose hasn't touched upon them, they are mine. I have to admit I am a little suprised at the buzz around them, for such a quick write up and some simple artwork. I should at some point put my notes together and create a cohesive post for them, either editing my original post or a new thread altogether. In a way it is odd to think of what people are actually voting on, in that I haven't really put everything together.
As far as: "White-hair, cyber-punk, rock-n-roll...":
White-hair- Yes they can have white hair, but also black as well, generally their genetic condition exacerbates coloration, darker hair turns darker, lighter hair turns lighter. Also there are not any half blue Darrians, either you have the full gene-set for the condition or not, however if one of your parents had a parent with the condition, then you married a full and and had offspring, they could be a full "blue" as it were. Much like typical recessive morphology.
Cyber-punk- So 90's...lol Steam-punk is now. Anyways, while I do like Gibson's "Neuromancer- Burning Chrome", Stephenson's "Snow Crash" and such, my Traveller Milieu is more set in a new Belle Epoch/Fin de Siecle (you can see it some with my Lt. Kodolitz pic in the gallery), with the Great Interstellar War breaking out. Blue Darrians are gypsy like travellers in this setting, not the meat itself, but just to spice things up. I have modelled them after the popular image of gypsies of that era. You can google the images from painters of that era, but be forewarned, they aren't safe for work, many of them; plenty of half naked babes.
Rock n Roll- Let's face it, I'm old. I do like some techno, though not much hip hop or rap, definitely not corporate rap (or cRap as I like to call it). So rock n roll, yes, think Planet Caravan by Sabbath:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibGifsYGSs
Some day, I will get my act together and make a cohesive post about the blue darrians. I'm still open to ideas and suggestions about them, people can go off on a tangent because there are the seven different caravans of them. Each Caravan could be similar but different, each with it's own secret language, etc. ad infinitum. I prefer to keep it friendly though, I have enough negativity in my life without having arguments on the internet with strangers.
Best Regards,
Robert
No. Why? Too much of a reaction to Avatar. Kinda like the 70s when every sci-fi had to have a cute robot companion (I am talking to YOU, Clash of the Titans!) Besides ....who gives a dingo's kidney about the skin color, anyway? It's the culture that matters! The skin is window-dressing (and again, that hints of reaction to Avatar).
Now, I know that Traveller is one big damn homage to scifi - what with Aslan/Kzin, Psycho-history/Foundation, ship hull codes (Again ringworld), Horde/Starship Troopers, Nomads of the World Ocean/Dune, etc. etc. and so and so. I get it. (Other games of the time also did this: D&D was Middle Earth and Fahfred and so on. Top Secret was Bond and UNCLE and Flint. Boot Hill was any Western)
So, simply put: It's the adventure not the skin color. It is the tale of 'colonalism is bad.' Refer yourself to Disney's Atlantis (a good one), Dune (in many ways), Bradbury's Martian Chronicles, Star Trek Insurrection, and (with a genius twist) The War of the Worlds. Traveller refs should make a quick low-tech barbarian culture, threaten them with an uncaring hi-tech culture that sees the barbarians 'in the way' of profit or expansion and try to make the players feel all good about saving a unique and promising barbarian culture from cold-hearted hi-tech culture.
Or you can just run Adventure 9: Nomads of the World Ocean.
Blue-skinned Darrians? But aren't they the tech 16 'Niuke your sun' culture? Their tale is about nuclear war and the dangers of 'science gone mad'.
That's my problem with Blue-skinned Darrians. It's kinda like making Batman worried about Kryptonite.
Now, I know that Traveller is one big damn homage to scifi - what with Aslan/Kzin, Psycho-history/Foundation, ship hull codes (Again ringworld), Horde/Starship Troopers, Nomads of the World Ocean/Dune, etc. etc. and so and so. I get it. (Other games of the time also did this: D&D was Middle Earth and Fahfred and so on. Top Secret was Bond and UNCLE and Flint. Boot Hill was any Western)
So, simply put: It's the adventure not the skin color. It is the tale of 'colonalism is bad.' Refer yourself to Disney's Atlantis (a good one), Dune (in many ways), Bradbury's Martian Chronicles, Star Trek Insurrection, and (with a genius twist) The War of the Worlds. Traveller refs should make a quick low-tech barbarian culture, threaten them with an uncaring hi-tech culture that sees the barbarians 'in the way' of profit or expansion and try to make the players feel all good about saving a unique and promising barbarian culture from cold-hearted hi-tech culture.
Or you can just run Adventure 9: Nomads of the World Ocean.
Blue-skinned Darrians? But aren't they the tech 16 'Niuke your sun' culture? Their tale is about nuclear war and the dangers of 'science gone mad'.
That's my problem with Blue-skinned Darrians. It's kinda like making Batman worried about Kryptonite.
Actually color is a very important matter. The aliens in Avatar were made blue because it is a calming color; so it makes it easier for audiences to sympathize with them. There is a very good reason why they aren't flaming-red or vomit-green. :rofl:
Gatsby-- the Blue Darrians present themselves as a Drow ripoff; see the wonderfully done artwork of the Blue-Darrian Queen herself -- If that aint a Drow, I'll eat my words..
Keklas Rekobah
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With all due respect to Mr. Miller, the canonical Darrians seemed to be analogous to an elvish race anyway. But why dress them up in blue suits and makeup, and then call them a 'new' race? Pointless, in my opinion.
Now here is the pic -- great pic btw --
BUT
This *IS* a Drow -- And thus -- it does NOT belong in the OTU, it is an ATU Sub-race.
http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Gallery/index.php?n=783
BUT
This *IS* a Drow -- And thus -- it does NOT belong in the OTU, it is an ATU Sub-race.
http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Gallery/index.php?n=783
If they don't worship the Demon Queen of Spiders, they ain't Drow.
Dark Elves, sure... a common enough contrivance of literature (the Unseelie) and gaming (dark elves).
And, just as AM8 turns the Darryan into unquestionable space elves with big guns, this turns a small portion of them into nature-abusing, mine dwelling ice-worlders with an attitude. I love it.
Dark Elves, sure... a common enough contrivance of literature (the Unseelie) and gaming (dark elves).
And, just as AM8 turns the Darryan into unquestionable space elves with big guns, this turns a small portion of them into nature-abusing, mine dwelling ice-worlders with an attitude. I love it.
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