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Fleet Structures & funding

Originally posted by Sigg Oddra:
These part time reservists would have to go and live on planets with Navy bases wouldn't they?

Would these reservists not fit better into planetary navies? Then they can hold down a day job and train every weekend, fortnight, or month, whatever is required.

I can't think there'd be too many employers happy with the idea of their workers disappearing off on jump maneuvers more than once a year though ;)
They woudl fit equally well with either. Though they would be pretty much stuck on one planet. Exercises eating 5-6 weeks at a pop once a year. One weekend a month otherwise to do things like maintenance, training, etc. THe fact that they would be making a home on a planet with a Naval base and not having a civilian occupation that would send them off planet on a regular basis is why I wouldn't let a Player Character do this. Remember the vast majority of the population of the Imperium never leaves their home system. I can see all the view ports crowded when arriving in a new system for exercises with most of the crew snapping pictures instead of manning battlestations during the 5-6 weeks annual training.

I can also see all the ships in this type of reserve fleet being fitted with demolitions charges, in case the enemy shows up at a Naval Base as the opening move of a war, so the unmanned (or virtually so) craft aren't captured.

Could you imagine how bad it would suck if you were the attacking force and happened to show up on a Drill Weekend? "What the hell is all this traffic? Why are there so many ships here? Someone at Naval Intelligence messed up big time!"
 
Originally posted by Bhoins:
So in TA 7 it says that the Reserve fleet comprises two parts Imperial Navy Reserve (with the older but not yet obsolete ships) and Colonial resources.
Just thought I would bring it up.
Eww!

Clearly the author(s) was aware of the debate and tried to have it both ways.

I'm glad I don't have TA7.
 
Originally posted by Bhoins:
Actually the term Reserve caused the confusion. Reservist, which until now wasn't quoted in a canon source, unlike reserve, has a fairly universal and specific meaning. A part time service person that has another career.
Reservist does not necessarily imply part time service. Traditional European conscript armies tended to involve recruits doing a couple of years full-time, then being eligible for call-up for the next few decades. Any other peacetime requirements could vary widely.

In any case, as you pointed out, the term was introduced into the debate by people who were confused or being pedantic, rather than from canon.
 
Originally posted by alanb:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bhoins:
Actually the term Reserve caused the confusion. Reservist, which until now wasn't quoted in a canon source, unlike reserve, has a fairly universal and specific meaning. A part time service person that has another career.
Reservist does not necessarily imply part time service. Traditional European conscript armies tended to involve recruits doing a couple of years full-time, then being eligible for call-up for the next few decades. Any other peacetime requirements could vary widely.

In any case, as you pointed out, the term was introduced into the debate by people who were confused or being pedantic, rather than from canon.
</font>[/QUOTE]I stand corrected, Reservist is traditionally part time at most, virtually no time being possible. Even in the US, aside from the reservists that drill there is also the Individual Ready Reserve which don't drill but are still subject to call up. (As a bunch of them recently found out.)
 
Originally posted by alanb:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bhoins:
So in TA 7 it says that the Reserve fleet comprises two parts Imperial Navy Reserve (with the older but not yet obsolete ships) and Colonial resources.
Just thought I would bring it up.
Eww!

Clearly the author(s) was aware of the debate and tried to have it both ways.

I'm glad I don't have TA7.
</font>[/QUOTE]I am not so sure about that. I may not be the author but I was unaware of any debate until I helped broach the subject here.
Seeing as TA 7 is almost a year old....
 
Fleet Structure.

Ley Fleet (Named Fleet) 1 per imperial sector
Composed of Imperial numbered fleets and reserve fleets and colonial forces
O-10 Grand Admiral 1
Plays more politics than daily operations of the fleet
O-9 Sector Admiral 2
Directes the day to day operations of the fleets. 1 directs the Imperial fleets while the other directs the reserve and colonial forces.

O-9 Rear Admiral
Serves as a staff pfficer and as Commander of Major Naval assesets such as Naval Bases or Depots.

16th Fleet (numbered fleet) 1 per imperial subsector
O-8 Fleet Admiral 1
1016th Fleet (numbered reserve fleet) 1 per imperial subsector.
O-8 Fleet Admiral 1

510th Batron
0-8 Vice Admiral 1
Runs the operation of the Battle Squadron while the Fleet Admiral runs the operation of the entire fleet.

INS Tigress Tigress class Dreadnaught / battleship
O-6 Captaptain
commands the ship
O-5 Commander
the captains exucutive officer usualy refered to as the First Officer.


510th Cruron
0-7 Comadore or O-6 Captain.
runs the operation of the cruiser squadron.

INS Atlatic Atlatic class cruiser
O-6 Captaptain
commands the ship
O-5 Commander
the captains exucutive officer usualy refered to as the First Officer.
 
Admiral,
Don't forget things like Flag Captain. (The Commanding officer of the Squadron's Flag ship.) The Commodore, or Vice Admiral may be the Squadron COmmander but the ship he is riding on will have its own Captain as well.
Sometimes thought of as the Flag Officer's Tactial Alter-Ego. The Flag Captain worries about tactics and executing the Flag Officer's orders and battle plan while the Flag Officer plans the next move and worries about the overall Strategy.
 
Bhoins I know. It comes to the simple fact that if the squadron commander or Fleet commander is busy fighting thier own ship they don't have the time to direct the larger battle. While the admiral has a Flagship for the flee,t from wich he directs the Fleets operations. The Flagship it self is commanded by a Captain.
 
First some Nomencature for the 207th Fleet based in Trin's Veil Subsector.
This fleet is split between 2 Navel bases.

BB=Dreadnaught
CB=Battle Carrier
CR=Cruiser
CL=Carrier Light
BR=Battle Rider
DD=Destroyer
DE=Destroyer Escort
FE=Fleet Escort
CE=Close Escort

Ships of the Fleet

1xCB=Lurenti
7xBR=Nolikian
4xBB=Tigress
1xCB=Mikaka
4xBR=Shukuar
4xBB=Arugkali
1xCB=Shugek
6xBR=Kakalikhu
30xBB=Khukami
14xCR=Migekaruu
12xCR=Cambridge
25xCL=Kamiushli
5xCL=Inmairar
20xFE=Sloan
8xDD=Khuzuuli
30xDD=Midu Agashaam
55xDD=Giimka
8xDE=Digeli
4xDE=Fer-De-Lance
55xDE=Irzuuim
26xDE=Chrysanthemum

I can't remember where I found this but I printed it out from somewhere. :confused:
 
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