mike wightman
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How do you transport the TL15 training simulators to every planet and where do you house the infrastructure?
CT Only: The Draft in the Third Imperium
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Spinward Flow
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I think they're called ... Naval Bases ...
Some worlds have them, some don't.
Check your local (sub)sector map for details.
Condottiere
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I kinda suspect that they train on appropriately homeworld teched equipment, and just need familiarization.
Assuming, the Imperium will make the effort to upgrade their equipment.
Assuming, the Imperium will make the effort to upgrade their equipment.
mike wightman
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So the Imperium is going to loan TL15 training equipment to every world?
Would it not be more cost effective to transport the recruits to a training centre?
Would it not be more cost effective to transport the recruits to a training centre?
Depends on volume. You're shipping something, somewhere, either way. Shipping the gear to the trainees means they get more training time and less "boy, jump space is boring" time. At some level of recruitment, building a local training center will make sense.
mike wightman
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One per subsector should suffice.
Condottiere
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The draft in Chartered Space was a daft idea, probably only added to ensure that player characters have some skills, if they can't manage to get hired.
However, there is a difference between individuals who sign up with the Imperium military, and those that are levied from planetary defence forces.
However, there is a difference between individuals who sign up with the Imperium military, and those that are levied from planetary defence forces.
Black Vulmea
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That's what JTAS 10, "Troops in the Fifth Frontier War," spells out.
Lift-capable troops per JTAS 10 are the "provincial army" IMTU, just like systems with jump-capable warships make up the "provincial fleet" (subsector navy). Both the provincial army and fleet tend to be more numerous and therefore more ubiquitous than Imperial forces -that patrol cruiser bearing down on you for inspection or the armored brigade overseeing your repatriation after completion of your ticket are probably provincial forces.
Black Vulmea
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If we accept it as representative, Fifth Frontier War makes clear that (1) Imperial Army is mostly TL 14 and (2) lift-capable planetary forces are equipped to local tech level.
I fudge those numbers a bit, but a brigade of TL 8 soldiers still has utility as peacekeepers, emergency relief, and so on, on a TL 12 world
Condottiere
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Primary cost driver is likely life support.
So you'd want minimum transport time.
So you'd want minimum transport time.
mike wightman
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The Fifth Frontier War boardgame counters show the bulk of the Imperial Army at TL15, not 14. The regular Imperial Army units are those black on red, the white on red are the colonial troops, not the regular army.
There are 7 TL15 5c field army regular units, only 1 TL14 5c field army, then there are 4 TL15 1c corps, and 2 TL14 1c corps, 5 TL15 20 divisions, 3 TL14 20 divisions, 4 TL15 10 brigades, 2 TL15 5 regiments, and 2 TL14 5 regiments.
Total combat factors - TL15 40c +50
TL14 7c + 70
The white on red colonial forces include 2 TL15 5c field armies
The bulk of Imperial Army and colonial forces are TL15.
It's more of a "where your PC ends up, lottery" than a draft as such. CT Chargen requires a career, so you get assigned one. It was written in an era when, at least in theory, a person might actually have a single job for most of their life, and the idea of hopscotching from one employer to another for career progression wasn't quite viable yet.
Condottiere
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Life path(s) seems more appropriate.
However, that's how game mechanics is set up, to obtain a very particular set of skills, skills acquired over a very long career.
However, that's how game mechanics is set up, to obtain a very particular set of skills, skills acquired over a very long career.
Black Vulmea
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Completely my bad - shoulda double-checked instead of relying on memory.
Here's what "Troops in the Fifth Frontier War" says about planetary forces:
It's clear from this that planetary forces are at local tech level, even if they are lift-capable. That there are TL F colonial units in the Marches isn't in doubt; in the setting I use - JG's Ley Sector - none of the systems are above TL C, though I do use the tech level adjustments from Grand Census to revise these on a system-by-system basis. A handful of systems have units as high as TL E this way.
Either way, colonial/provincial forces include units with TL's below E/F per JTAS 10, though I won't swear to this for FFW without looking first!
I would nuance it a bit and say that successful recruitment is whatever the PC wants it to be (Planetary / Subsector / Imperial), but that The Draft is explicitly Planetary / Subsector.
The Imperium can normally afford to take the best of those who choose to apply to fulfill their recruitment goals.
Conscripts often have limited utility, as Eisenhower said "the Sergeant is the Army" in that the career personnel, support people mostly, are the backbone. They will be at bases with their families, and not be shifted around without need. It's not heroic sounding, though the military's main job is moving material around, maintaining equipment, etc..
Condottiere
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In theory, you need a year's training, another year for unit integration, and then you deploy.
Psychologically, about eighteen months of active combat, before fatigue sets in.
If you can levy trained troops, you can skip two years.
Psychologically, about eighteen months of active combat, before fatigue sets in.
If you can levy trained troops, you can skip two years.
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