Jeff M. Hopper
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Now quick! Make one that looks like an Army cargo hummer!
Or a jeep!
Now quick! Make one that looks like an Army cargo hummer!
Or a jeep!
The autorickshaw type things?Originally posted by Jeff M. Hopper:
Actually, I designed the Outrigger along the lines of the 3-wheeled pickups that I saw in Singapore and Thailand. So, you're not far off at all.
Yes! Those are the ones. I remember we had nicknamed them "bhat buses" when we pulled into Thailand.Originally posted by Casey:
The autorickshaw type things?
http://www.auto-rickshaw.com/product-category.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_rickshaw
I can't find a good pic of the pickup ones at the mo.
I think India or some Asian port city's (it may have been in Thailand) wanting to make electric ones to cut down on the pollution.
Which means, yes I want to try my hand at some, perhaps even grav versions, in T20 sometime.![]()
Casey
True.Originally posted by Sigg Oddra:
Jeff, in your original write up you say she has a dispersed structure hull cofiguration.
Do the deck plans not resemble a box like close structure instead?
Yes, but why use a 747 when a Piper Cub can do the job? The Type W Barge is kinda like an interstellar jeep or bass boat, small and cheap for the kinds of duties that seem to fall through the cracks left by the Kiloton range vessels.Originally posted by Aramis:
Actually, a 1000Td barge would be cheaper by the ton carried; the bridge eats up a LOT of tonnage for what it does. (20% on a 100Td, 2% on a 1000Td or larger)
True, size does matter and it would be more efficient for the larger cargo demand runs, I can't argue with that. The only drawback is that is not what I was designing, I was shooting for a small jump-capable ship that could take care of a lot of small jobs and be cheap enough that they would be sold as surplus on the open market once they had outlived their usefulness for the government or corporation that had initially bought them. These ships travel to worlds that are either out of the way or have small populations (UWP 0-3) that would not require a larger ship. (For a short while, I worked as an airloader for UPS at Boeing Field International. We had semi-trucks and cargo jets bringing in the packages to be delivered - these would be the equivalent to your large version of the ship. When it came time to distribute those packages to other destinations, we used a fleet of smaller "puddle-jumper" aircraft and delivery vans - the delivery vans would be equivalent of worldside transport while the "puddle-jumper" aircraft are the equivalent of the Type W Barge and other small merchant starships or Scout/Couriers.)Originally posted by Aramis:
Cause a piper is only cost effective vs a 727 when either
A) the 727 can't land where the cub can
or
B) a cub can exceed the demand for transport.
Besides, scaling it up does not quite linearly scale up crewing. At 1000Td, we can still do Bk2 crew rates
(snip good crunchy bits)
This beast is 15 times the cargo, for 5 times the salaries. Overall, about 15 times the cost, too.
Unless the hijackers are hidden inside one of the standardized shipping containers and planned it that way because most barges don't worry about hijackers and so have fewer precautions....Originally posted by Aramis:
HOWEVER, a Barge has no need to worry about hijack. No passengers, no hijacking. Barratry and stowaway, maybe, but not hijack.