Hairy Jim DeGriz
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When the "Baddies from the Core" plot was canceled due to the cancelation of MegaTraveller, does that actually mean the Primordials were retconned entirely from the OTU? Or are they simply an aspect of ancient history with very little remaining evidence since they quietly sublimed (to use a term from Iain M. Banks' Culture books) as opposed to the Ancients' messy exit?1 - think about it for a couple of minutes and this becomes unlikely
2 - doesn't have to be Grandfather, but it is certainly possibly maybe linked to prodding the Zhodani to go investigate the Core
3 - I doubt if I will live long enough for this to ever see print - unless marc has a novel at the printers as we speak (hope so)
4 - I liked the concept of baddies from the core, still don't see a reason why they can not be reretconned
The latter, as I understand it. The Baddies From the Core explanation for the clues scattered around MegaTraveller is not Canon, but the clues remain.When the "Baddies from the Core" plot was canceled due to the cancelation of MegaTraveller, does that actually mean the Primordials were retconned entirely from the OTU? Or are they simply an aspect of ancient history with very little remaining evidence since they quietly sublimed (to use a term from Iain M. Banks' Culture books) as opposed to the Ancients' messy exit?
I like the idea that the Primordials just left less evidence behind both because they were both more ancient than the Ancients, and because they simply decided to do some housekeeping on their way out and so it's rare to even find an expert on the Ancients who knows of evidence of the Primordials let alone recognizes it as evidence of a completely different civilization.The latter, as I understand it. The Baddies From the Core explanation for the clues scattered around MegaTraveller is not Canon, but the clues remain.
The timeline, as I recall it, is that DGP presented Baddies as their path forward and GDW said no. DGP terminated their license, and GDW finished out the MegaTraveller MegaPlot MegaEvent, finishing with the "nuke and pave" button to launch TNE.
While I had a negative reaction to Baddies the first time I read it, a comment from the TML after Baddies was revealed by DGP on their way out the door summed it up best. Paraphrased: "After five years of giant meta-plot we could only watch and not influence, DGP offers up another five year plan of giant meta-plot we can only watch and not influence. Nah."
Are the Primordials the same as the Kursae?
Yet MM has adopted the EW as a way to further reformat the setting now for Galxiad?While I had a negative reaction to Baddies the first time I read it, a comment from the TML after Baddies was revealed by DGP on their way out the door summed it up best. Paraphrased: "After five years of giant meta-plot we could only watch and not influence, DGP offers up another five year plan of giant meta-plot we can only watch and not influence. Nah."
. . . the EW as a way to further reformat the setting now for Galxiad?
Always read the manual."The PCs aboard the derelict Ancients' vessel hit the "FDISK" Command on the main computer, not realizing that the "disk" being referenced was Galactic . . . "
Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!Always read the manual.
Marc inherited the Wave with TNE, but instead of staying with the 1248 path (which is pretty cool but had a pointless Wave that was just going to be around forever), he made it more dangerous but relegated the Wave to history. Over, gone, moving on.Yet MM has adopted the EW as a way to further reformat the setting now for Galxiad?
Unless of course you game in that setting. But it's not like anyone here cares.Marc inherited the Wave with TNE, but instead of staying with the 1248 path (which is pretty cool but had a pointless Wave that was just going to be around forever), he made it more dangerous but relegated the Wave to history. Over, gone, moving on.
I'm a computer programmer by tradeUnless of course you game in that setting. But it's not like anyone here cares.