Taking the question I've posted here a little further, I'd like to know which of the two CT ship systems would you want "modernized" - High Guard or LBB2? By modernized I mean an expansion of technologies available, a fixed combat system (so that LBB2 combat would work with multi-weapon ships and HG would work with small, PC-scale combat) and a streamlining of some of the rules; the core of each system will be kept, but the applications would be modified to provide both better gameplay and an increased variety of options.
Which do you prefer: a modernised LBB2 or a modernised High Guard
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Michael Taylor
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with avenger CT i'm writing in a modernized HG with a simple PC friendly combat system and LBB2 type software influencing battles.
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Pickles
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I voted for a modernised LBB2, purely because of its ease-of-use. I have nothing against HG, and I usually design in both systems simultaneously.
However, if the bumps in the LBB2 design tables can be smoothed out, I think it would be a much more player-friendly system.
On a personal note, I'm not even that bothered about including HG weapons or hull sizes above 10,000 dtons or so. Players should never need to get into a fight with such vessels, and (as has been made clear in other threads) HG makes for a pretty dull wargame.
However, if the bumps in the LBB2 design tables can be smoothed out, I think it would be a much more player-friendly system.
On a personal note, I'm not even that bothered about including HG weapons or hull sizes above 10,000 dtons or so. Players should never need to get into a fight with such vessels, and (as has been made clear in other threads) HG makes for a pretty dull wargame.
Robject, I aggree
I use both books..book 2 for combat and H. G. for ship construction. As for one book absorbing another, I like to join the two through role playing. No ship, no matter the size, moves or performs without an order to do so........
......And so I didn't vote because I'd like to see both books updated
I use both books..book 2 for combat and H. G. for ship construction. As for one book absorbing another, I like to join the two through role playing. No ship, no matter the size, moves or performs without an order to do so........
......And so I didn't vote because I'd like to see both books updated
mike wightman
SOC-14 10K
I prefer LBB2+
I've already handwritten it for myself.
I've already handwritten it for myself.
mike wightman
SOC-14 10K
Mayday does a good job of filling in the sandcaster and missile rule gaps...
Except that Mayday's scale is so infernally large compared to LBB2's. You can make interpretations in LBB2 that are informed by MAYDAY but it's still not the simple "completion" of the Book 2 trules that seems to have been called for.
If Book 2 had, before wandering off into Experience and Drugs, simply made some clear statements:
1: explaining sand behavior,
2: giving the performance of that basic cr.5,000 missile, and
3: incorporated the final Starter Traveller mod of "pulse lasers -1, 2 hits damage" (or at least not abandoned the first edition mod of pulse lasers -1)
4: and oh yes, corrected (either in the text or on the form) the CPU space on Jump programs.
then I probably wouldn't have any quibbles with LBB2 at all.
Now that I think about it, If LBB2 hadn't digressed into drugs and experience, they'd have had more room to do a more complete drive performance table, and probably a decent, simple "missile contstruction"
table.
If Book 2 had, before wandering off into Experience and Drugs, simply made some clear statements:
1: explaining sand behavior,
2: giving the performance of that basic cr.5,000 missile, and
3: incorporated the final Starter Traveller mod of "pulse lasers -1, 2 hits damage" (or at least not abandoned the first edition mod of pulse lasers -1)
4: and oh yes, corrected (either in the text or on the form) the CPU space on Jump programs.
then I probably wouldn't have any quibbles with LBB2 at all.
Now that I think about it, If LBB2 hadn't digressed into drugs and experience, they'd have had more room to do a more complete drive performance table, and probably a decent, simple "missile contstruction"
table.
mike wightman
SOC-14 10K
Yep, Drugs should have been in LBB3 with the rest of the equipment, and experience should have been in LBB1.
Sandcasters remain one of those "how are they meant to work" things for me.
If a ship has a triple turret filled with sandcasters does that provide a -9 DM to be hit?
Sandcasters remain one of those "how are they meant to work" things for me.
If a ship has a triple turret filled with sandcasters does that provide a -9 DM to be hit?
Icosahedron
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I didn't vote either. In my usual mish-mash style I'm always happy to see new rules for Traveller in any version. If I like 'em I'll include 'em.
I use LBB2 for dogfights/roleplay, LBB5 for ship design, Full Thrust/Power Projection for set battles, and Pocket Empires for strategic actions.
All modified by my own house rules, of course.
I use LBB2 for dogfights/roleplay, LBB5 for ship design, Full Thrust/Power Projection for set battles, and Pocket Empires for strategic actions.
All modified by my own house rules, of course.
