phil644441
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Perhaps someone should convince Peter Jackson that the Foundation Trilogy is the only possible followup to Lord of the Rings...?
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Asimov and Classic Traveller influence
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Andrew Boulton
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BM is generally considered to be a bit of a turkey. I didn't think it was quite that bad, but I'm in no hurry to watch it again.
I like most of Asimov's stuff, so I'll give Foundation another chance one day.
I like most of Asimov's stuff, so I'll give Foundation another chance one day.
jchurchill
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Well, I liked A.I. if that's anything to go by...
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Ewwww. Very promising beginning [the Kubrick half] subsequently dragged down by the Speilberg schmaltzy parts.
Bicentennial Man --- tried to watch it and could not. Didn't know that it was based on Asimov.
"I Robot" -- I skipped it because I really enjoyed the book and Caves of Steel. I may have to break down and rent it.
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Ewwww. Very promising beginning [the Kubrick half] subsequently dragged down by the Speilberg schmaltzy parts.
Bicentennial Man --- tried to watch it and could not. Didn't know that it was based on Asimov.
"I Robot" -- I skipped it because I really enjoyed the book and Caves of Steel. I may have to break down and rent it.
jchurchill
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What other Asimov stories have been made into movies?
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You are all missing the most obvious movie!!
Fantastic Voyage. Raquel Welch in her white wetsuit being attacked by anti-bodies.
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You are all missing the most obvious movie!!
Fantastic Voyage. Raquel Welch in her white wetsuit being attacked by anti-bodies.
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Malenfant
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I was only thinking about Fantastic Voyage the other day... I didn't know that was Asimov. I haven't seen that for AGES.
Andrew Boulton
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FV doesn't count - he wrote the novelisation of the film.
Good Brits, on the list (and other knowledgable folks) apparent the BBC did an adaptation of the Foundation series. Does anyone know if this exists in Real Audio on their website (I tried looking but was not successful).
If yes, you would be so kind as to post the link.
If yes, you would be so kind as to post the link.
jchurchill
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FV doesn't count - he wrote the novelisation of the film.
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Learn something new every day. His name is on the spine of the book so he still gets to take the blame for it though.
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Learn something new every day. His name is on the spine of the book so he still gets to take the blame for it though.
jchurchill
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Here is some background to the Foundation series.
http://www.pannis.com/SFDG/TheFoundationTrilogy/theStoryBehindTheFoundation.html
http://www.pannis.com/SFDG/TheFoundationTrilogy/theStoryBehindTheFoundation.html
Gaming Glen
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My friends and I went to see the 1980s version of Nightfall, in the 1980s. It was utterly dreadfull. Utterly. I mean it. Don't waste your time. We sat through the whole thing, only because it was an Asimov story, and hoped it might have some redeeming quality. It didn't. I rate it as a tie of the worst movies I've ever watched (I can't recall, thankfully, what the other one was, but it had this robot come to life.. Hardwired? Ugh)
I just reread Foundation, and found it dated. But it did remind of something I thought amusing and never seen mentioned elsewhere: every planet has a different smell. So, I also wonder if every planet's sky is blue?
Glen
I just reread Foundation, and found it dated. But it did remind of something I thought amusing and never seen mentioned elsewhere: every planet has a different smell. So, I also wonder if every planet's sky is blue?
Glen
Andrew Boulton
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Radio version: it may pop up on Radio 7 - check here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/drama/7thdimension.shtml
or this might be it: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0563410221/qid=1099595536/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_10_3/026-9282882-1028428
or this might be it: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0563410221/qid=1099595536/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_10_3/026-9282882-1028428
jchurchill
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"I just reread Foundation, and found it dated."
I imagine it would be.
"But it did remind of something I thought amusing and never seen mentioned elsewhere: every planet has a different smell."
That would explain Planet Newark and Planet Pittsburgh.
"So, I also wonder if every planet's sky is blue?"
Probably not. See the 2 planets above.
I imagine it would be.
"But it did remind of something I thought amusing and never seen mentioned elsewhere: every planet has a different smell."
That would explain Planet Newark and Planet Pittsburgh.
"So, I also wonder if every planet's sky is blue?"
Probably not. See the 2 planets above.
Andrew Boulton
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I've just checked, and you're in luck: it's being repeated starting 14th November at 18:00.
Gaming Glen
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I don't mean just the science, but also the sophistication of the writing seems dated. Maybe "dated" is the wrong word, but instead "primitive" or "immature"; neither sounds right but there is something.
I have found that Asimov's early writings, in one of his books of short stories, to be that of a new writer, and the book shows his growth in writing capabilites. But I read that some 20+ years ago.
I just wasn't re-impressed with Foundation.
Glen
Gruffty
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I've just finished re-readin the Foundation series, including the "prequels".
There's tons of cross references between Foundation and Traveller:
There are no robots per se in Foundation (except, of course, Dors and Hummin/Daneel R. Olivaw and the "dead" one in the tower at the top of the Library in Myco-whatsit);
Jump space;
An Emperor/Empire/Imperium that's been around a long time;
A "long night";
Big space ships;
Psionics;
Psychohistory (mentioned in both CT Supp 11 and MT Imperial Encyclopedia, but not quite along the same lines as in Foundation);
Anacreon is also a world in the Solomani Rim (CT Supp 10) - I haven't managed to find any other references to Foundation worlds in CT canon though.
Traveller doesn't have Heliconian Twisting as a combat skill, though.
Yes, I'd agree that Foundation is dated (not surprisingly) from a "tech" point of view, but the stories are a good read, and I like Asimov's idea of Seldon being his alter ego, and the back fill/history in the more recent Foundation books.
Weird that Asimov died 2 weeks after finishing the Foundation book in which Seldon dies....
There's tons of cross references between Foundation and Traveller:
There are no robots per se in Foundation (except, of course, Dors and Hummin/Daneel R. Olivaw and the "dead" one in the tower at the top of the Library in Myco-whatsit);
Jump space;
An Emperor/Empire/Imperium that's been around a long time;
A "long night";
Big space ships;
Psionics;
Psychohistory (mentioned in both CT Supp 11 and MT Imperial Encyclopedia, but not quite along the same lines as in Foundation);
Anacreon is also a world in the Solomani Rim (CT Supp 10) - I haven't managed to find any other references to Foundation worlds in CT canon though.
Traveller doesn't have Heliconian Twisting as a combat skill, though.
Yes, I'd agree that Foundation is dated (not surprisingly) from a "tech" point of view, but the stories are a good read, and I like Asimov's idea of Seldon being his alter ego, and the back fill/history in the more recent Foundation books.
Weird that Asimov died 2 weeks after finishing the Foundation book in which Seldon dies....
jchurchill
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in which Seldon dies
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Seldon dies?? Thanks, now you spolied the ending for me.
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Seldon dies?? Thanks, now you spolied the ending for me.
Gruffty
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It says it on the back cover of my copy, there for all to see......
But the book in which Seldon dies was written well after the original Foundation books - IIRC, there was something like a 25 year gap involved. In the original Foundation books, Seldon was already dead, and had been for some years!
But the book in which Seldon dies was written well after the original Foundation books - IIRC, there was something like a 25 year gap involved. In the original Foundation books, Seldon was already dead, and had been for some years!
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