Dune

[Timerover51]

That is exactly what Paul is supposed to be. The irony is that Paul is NOT the main character of the series.

Major Spoiler...

Spoiler:

Duncan Idaho is the Kwizatz Haderach and the actual main character of the series.

Reread it knowing that, and it takes on a different view of the setting and the first 3 novels.

I figure that it is not worth my time. The first book was acceptable when I read it back as a teen, in monthly chunks, in Analog. As for it being the best-selling science fiction novel of all time, in the words of Captain James T. Kirk:

Capt. Kirk: . . . Well, there's no accounting for taste.

Edit Note: "Dune" was one of those books that I never really developed any liking for any of the characters in it. Not quite as bad as Julian May's Pliocene series, where after buying and reading them, I promptly sold them off. Most of the characters in there I positively disliked, without liking one.

 

[SanDragon]

I found the Galactic Milieu books to be better.

 

[Enoff]

What I like about Dune is its implied depth of history much like the Lord of the Rings. I was reading (wiki):

Herbert spent the next five years researching, writing, and revising a literary work that was eventually serialized in Analog magazine from 1963 to 1965 as two shorter works, Dune World and The Prophet of Dune.

Which Timerover was lucky to read, I was born in '64, so missed that. And thanks for the spoiler Aramis! I didn't know that! But thinking about characters, I guess the characters aren't important as the underlying philosophy of life that I see Herbert trying to grasp with his novel. To me the first appendix "The Ecology of Dune" might be the most important part with the second appendix "The Religion of Dune" a close entwining second.

 

[Spinward Scout]

I really liked Dune, but I got disappointed when I found out that the story is pretty close to the synopsis of Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves.

Ali Baba, son of the Kalif of Bagdad is brought up by the 40 Thieves after his father is killed by the soldiers of Hugalu Khan, who received the necessary information by traitor Cassim. Ali becomes the leader of the thieves and they are fighting for the freedom of his land.

 

[Blue Ghost]

The proposed film in the doc looks like it'd make for a good CGI toon.

Not to get too off topic, but in my forty plus years of reading the genre, I find that good sci-fi is a rarity. Alan Dean Foster, Christopher Stasheff, our own Keith brothers, Asimov, Bradbury, and a handful of others are all masters of the genre. Other authors tend to waddle through it some. Sometimes you find a gem. Not always.

 

[Enoff]

I really liked Dune, but I got disappointed when I found out that the story is pretty close to the synopsis of Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves.

Its makes me think more of the 8th century when the Arabs erupted from the desert to fight the Parthian and Roman (Byzantine) empires. I've always wanted to read "The Arabian Nights" those stories are archetypal. I love listening to Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov's Op. 35 Scheherazade!

 

[GypsyComet]

I've always wanted to read "The Arabian Nights" those stories are archetypal.

And likely to vanish from the literature of the West, given how things are going. That said, I had great fun reading them years ago, picking out the popularized bits as I went. Seeing how scrambled the voyages of Sinbad were was interesting.

 

[Enoff]

Watching Jodorowsky's Dune, to quote Spock "Fascinating!"

Wild to look at the conception art by Jean Giraud

Maybe he should have tried doing an animated film? Like Wizards

 

[Blue Ghost]

Again, a Spock quote; "I believe I said that, doctor."

 

[mike wightman]

Those look nothing like anything described in the book.

Just started reading it again last night

Suspensor glow globe lighting, suspensor variform chairs, pain box (nerve induction)

 

[aramis]

Those look nothing like anything described in the book.

Just started reading it again last night

Suspensor glow globe lighting, suspensor variform chairs, pain box (nerve induction)

Closer than the SyFy channel got...
As in, the Atreidies are at least in the correct colors...

Per the book:
Atreides: Green with Red Trim
Harkonnen: Blue and Orange (blue uniforms)
Corrino: Black, Grey, Gold

In the above pics:
Atreides: Green or Red
Harkonnen: Orange and Black
Corrino: Black and Gray

In the Lynch Movie:
Atreides: Green with Red, and tan with red (field uniforms for Arrakis)
Harkonnen: Black and Blue
Corrino: Black and Gold, Red Accents

In the SyFy miniseries:
Atreides: Brown and white
Harkonen: (dark) red and black
Corrino: I don't recall...

 

[Blue Ghost]

What would a "Traveller; DUNE" supplement look like or have in it?

 

[aramis]

What would a "Traveller; DUNE" supplement look like or have in it?

House creation - Major and minor
How to tweak CGen to reflect the houses
Rules for Mentats, Bene Gesserit, Navigators computerless craft, shields, spice
worked examples drawn from Houses Atreides, Corrino, Harkonnen, Richesse

Probably would use the point based character generation option.

 

[Spinward Scout]

What would a "Traveller; DUNE" supplement look like...?

Fading Suns

 

[Enoff]

^ Supplement Four I think worked on some ideas.

I noticed that Jodorowsky was involved in creating a series of comic/graphic novels about the Borgia. When I was thinking of the politics of Dune I immediately thought of the Borgia's, so strange to find he was involved in these comics.

 

[SanDragon]

Watching the Sci-Fi movie...

So far, the Emporer's Sardukar are in Harkonnen red and black...

Stay Tuned!

Although, the Princess' escort was in all black...

and dark gray, with a blue-violet sash that looks like a blacklight was shining on it.

 

[Moebius]

DUNE is in the news again with a director attached for another attempt. I'm up for it.

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/denis-villeneuve-dune-reboot-legendary-pictures-1201929280/

 

[aramis]

Watching the Sci-Fi movie...

So far, the Emporer's Sardukar are in Harkonnen red and black...

Stay Tuned!

Although, the Princess' escort was in all black...

and dark gray, with a blue-violet sash that looks like a blacklight was shining on it.

So annoying when the graphic designer gets the house colors dead *bleep*ing wrong.

Harkonen canonical colors: Black and sky-blue/baby-blue
Atreides: Green and Red
Imperial/Corrino: Black, Grey, Bronze & Gold.

 

[Quint]

I liked the SyFy movies better than the Lynch film, I really hated the Lych film when it came out though over the years it has grown on me. The SyFy movies capture how the books looked in my head far, far better than the Lynch film - plus they were more accurate to the texts themselves (wierding modules? heart-plugs? WTF?). Given the advances in CGI and the popularity of scifi, I'm happy to see a new big-budget film.

And yes, I think Fading Suns makes a great Dune sourcebook (I've used bits and bobs IMTU). I thought their personal shields worked great game-mechanic wise.

D.

 

[mike wightman]

Lynch got a lot right in his film, but ruined it with the wierding module and the final scene.

The heart plugs were a bit unnecessary too.

I really liked the mini-series with the exception of the wooden horse they had playing Gurney and Paul was ten years too old.