New vehicles and a merchant ship

[lightsenshi]

I have added three new grav train vehicles. Also, I have whipped up a seemingly reasonably priced merchant ship. Here's the link.

http://www.geocities.com/lightsenshi/vehicles.html

 

[Jame]

Nice. I like the limo, are any available in the Imperium (and you're talking about the Julian Protectorate, right)?

 

[lightsenshi]

I'm sure they could be. The Velde Protectorate is on the far side of the Vargr Extents.

 

[Jame]

Oh, the _Velde_ Protectorate. If'n I'd read the rest of your site I'd know that...

They might not be in Gateway, but "only in Vland" . Keep up the good work!

 

[lightsenshi]

You never know where a shipment might turn up.

Back to planning carnage, mahyem, and mischief.

 

[far-trader]

"Always with the nit-picking he is."



So, looking over the ship quickly I've got a couple questions.

No hardpoints noted, are they in fact absent or is it just an oversight when typing it up? The reason I ask ties into the next question...

Why so much power? You've got 24EP and only need 13EP at the most. That'd save a few creds and get you more cargo (or other) space.

That's all in a quick glance. Otherwise nicely done I'd say

 

[lightsenshi]

The extra power is so that if weapons are installed. And yes, hardpoints were deliberately overlooked. You can add hardpoints later, can't you?

 

[mike wightman]

Nope, hardpoints are designated at construction at a cost of 100,000 Cr per hardpoint.
They take up no interior space, it is the turret fire control that can be added later

 

[mike wightman]

If you want to make it even more reasonably priced:
reduce the power plant size as Dan suggests, I would go for a 13EP plant (how many triple laser turrets is a merchant going to carry?) and rely on a mix of missiles, sandcasters and lasers - saving 33 MCr and freeing up 22 tons for other uses;
change the hull to a streamlined close structure (this will cost 26 MCr instead of 48 MCr, but you will have to increase the avionics to model 2 at an additional cost of 2.7 MCr) - saving 19.3 MCr

Total saving 52.3 MCr

I would also install a fuel purification plant, they pay for themselves in no time - cost 30,000Cr

 

[lightsenshi]

The Keldor class uses the same basic construction as an SDB. Producing a ship with a closed structure would require retooling an entire production line.

So there's a background rather than a price reason for the design the way it is. Also, all armed starships in the area they're built are also military auxiliaries.

And I went ahead and added 3 hardpoints.

 

[JAFARR]

Originally posted by Sigg Oddra:
Nope, hardpoints are designated at construction at a cost of 100,000 Cr per hardpoint.
They take up no interior space, it is the turret fire control that can be added later

I thought that there was Zero cost to designate a hard point, but that you had to reserve 1 ton each for control hardware. (Which could be used as cargo space if accessable until put into service.) Or is that HG rules?

 

[mike wightman]

It changes depending on the edition of Traveller
The T20 rulebook, page 271:

Hardpoints require no tonnage but cost Cr100,000 for each hardpoint. Hardpoints must be designated when the ship is designed and may not be added after construction is begun.

 

[JAFARR]

OK! I never used T20 or GT

 

[flykiller]

It changes depending on the edition of Traveller

CT book 2 says hardpoints cost 100kCr, while book 5 says they're free. you can shop around in the books and get the best deal.

 

[mike wightman]

Not when we're discussing a T20 design you can't
And hardpoints for sockets in TNE cost Cr5000, and in T4 they're free unless retrofitted.

 

[Jame]

It occurs to me to ask: how many tons are these, at least under the CT, LBB2 rules?

 

[mike wightman]

Jame, can I ask what you mean by "how many tons are these...?"?

If you mean hardpoints, they don't have a tonnage in CT, neither do turrets or their weapons. It is the fire control that takes up 1 ton per turret installed, regardless of its size.

 

[Jame]

Oh, I'm sorry - I meant the vehicles on lightsenshi's website (not the merchie, but the others).

 

[mike wightman]

In that case you divide the vehicle's size in vl by 1400 to get its displacement in ship tons.