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Tech in the Far Future

The postings on "Art in the Far Future" brough to mind a similar subject.

What will technology be like in the Imperium around 1120 ICE?

Consider this approximated timeline:
- 50 years ago, a computor took up several rooms, was built with thermionic valves (vacuum tubes), had to be re-wired to change the program, and had the calculating power of a modern hand-held calculator.
- 40 years ago, transistors were a hot commodity, a computor took up a single cabinet, data storage used punched cards and magnetic tape, and teletypes were the standard i/o device.
- 30 years ago, integrated circuits were used to build the first home computers, data storage used 8-inch magnetic discs and cassette tapes, and television monitors were the standard output device.
- 20 years ago, LSI integration pushed computors past the 640 kilobyte memory limit, and VGA displays became the norm. A 9600-baud dialup modem was a hot commodity. The ARPA-net was in use by the military-industrial complex and several large universities.
- 10 years ago, 30 to 50% of all middle-class households had at least one computor with a 14.4 kilobaud modem. The Internet became easily accessible to anyone with a used computer. XLSI integration comes into play.
- Today, if you do not know how to set up a LAN or WAN, or even maintain the operating system on your home PC, then you are likely a third-tier candidate in the global job market. This might be offset if you have knowledge and skills related to such "Legacy" technology as vacuum tubes, discrete transistors, SSI/MSI/LSI integration, ladder logic, analog telephony, voice over radio, analog video, and other notary sojac, but you have to be exceptionally skilled in these legacy fields to be competitive.

Nowadays, most engineers build a command / control / communications (CCC) system around a single integrated circuit that can be custom configured to suit the application (PIC's). In the "Old Days" a cellular telephone would be the size of a suitcase. Use a PIC and customizable RF devices, and the largest items in a cell phone become the power source and user intefaces (keypad and display).

In the Far Future, would discrete devices still be used or even useful? Or would the 'average' tech level use customizable 'building blocks'? Would a person who knows the theory behind electronic components use them to design equipment be more or less valuable in the job market than a person who merely programs a set of 'building blocks' and connects them together? Would the 'art' of home-crafted electronics be lost? Would people still be able construct their mnemonic computers utilizing stone knives and bearskins, or would they be forced to buy one made of the latest semi-conductors and composites?

Consider what we call 'Amateur Radio' -- would people in the Far Future still be winding their own tuning coils and polishing their own oscillator crystals? Would they still take pride in making contact with someone on the other side of the planet using Morse code and less than 1 watt of power with what amounts to a rat's nest of discrete components inside a cigar box?

Comments?
 
Well consider this then.

There is an organized group of several million individuals that get together to have meetings and get togethers. Now this is not uncommon, except that this group prefers to maintain the technology, studies, societies, and dress like folks from before 1605 AD. Most of the people in this society prefer the period from 800 BC to 1200 AD. Folk from this society study and perform the dances, songs, and literary of those periods. Each individual is urged to come up with their own "character" from a specific period and emulate that persons lifestyle from that specific era.

There are full-scale conflicts, personalized combat, folks both men and women in full armor, folks on horseback, etc.

I most enjoy the cooking: honey glazed duck with rosemary herb mix roasted over an open fire. MMMMMMMMM Yum!

I will leave you with that tantalizing idea.
 
Originally posted by Heretic Keklas Rekobah:
The postings on "Art in the Far Future" brough to mind a similar subject.

What will technology be like in the Imperium around 1120 ICE?
...

- Today, if you do not know how to set up a LAN or WAN, or even maintain the operating system on your home PC, then you are likely a third-tier candidate in the global job market. This might be offset if you have knowledge and skills related to such "Legacy" technology as vacuum tubes, discrete transistors, SSI/MSI/LSI integration, ladder logic, analog telephony, voice over radio, analog video, and other notary sojac, but you have to be exceptionally skilled in these legacy fields to be competitive.

Until you got to this, you were pretty much on track. If you stated, if you don't recongize or know about LAN, WAN or operating systems you would be a 3rd tier canidate I would agree some what. There are many many people who use computers because to not would be to lose to a competitor. But that does not mean they know anything about the actual operations of such. Take the auto today. In the begining many people played around with the engine and could tell you something about it. Now, most people don't know anything more than how to check the oil if that much. A computer on board tells them.

Originally posted by Heretic Keklas Rekobah:

Nowadays, most engineers build a command / control / communications (CCC) system around a single integrated circuit that can be custom configured to suit the application (PIC's). In the "Old Days" a cellular telephone would be the size of a suitcase. Use a PIC and customizable RF devices, and the largest items in a cell phone become the power source and user intefaces (keypad and display).

In the Far Future, would discrete devices still be used or even useful? Or would the 'average' tech level use customizable 'building blocks'? Would a person who knows the theory behind electronic components use them to design equipment be more or less valuable in the job market than a person who merely programs a set of 'building blocks' and connects them together? Would the 'art' of home-crafted electronics be lost? Would people still be able construct their mnemonic computers utilizing stone knives and bearskins, or would they be forced to buy one made of the latest semi-conductors and composites?

Consider what we call 'Amateur Radio' -- would people in the Far Future still be winding their own tuning coils and polishing their own oscillator crystals? Would they still take pride in making contact with someone on the other side of the planet using Morse code and less than 1 watt of power with what amounts to a rat's nest of discrete components inside a cigar box?

Comments?
Take a look at PBasic chips and that hobby/educational market. The chips used there are more powerfull than 8086 was and some are equal to a 286. (8086 was after the 8088 and before 286.)

In the old days, everyone knew something about building something. Now a days you hire some one and the old arts are just a hobby/pastime that you pay money to some one to teach you how to. (Blacksmithing, handtools only building a house.)
 
Originally posted by seadog:
Well consider this then.

There is an organized group of several million individuals that get together to have meetings and get togethers. Now this is not uncommon, except that this group prefers to maintain the technology, studies, societies, and dress like folks from before 1605 AD. [...]

There are full-scale conflicts [...]

[...]

I will leave you with that tantalizing idea.
Just as long as the Neo-Nazis don't suddenly start doing their own historical re-enactments.

Now, or anytime in the future.
 
Seadog, it's not over 2million; the membershp nubers are only 6 digit numerics, and about 2 people play without cards for every carded member (According to some well placed WK officers... and Corporate's report and estimates on the elimination of member cards suggestion of His Grace Flieg). I know that the NMS has dropped those numbers drastically in Oertha....

Now as to the main question...

I suspect a lot more multifunction devices will be produced, but I don't think modularity will prevail. Modularity will remain an option, but not be the standard.

I suspect also we'll see more distributed computing... like your personal computing network on a low range (1m or so reliable range) net, sending to the video card on the monitor the data, not the rendered video. The keyboard processing which language then presenting it as unicode by current configuration, and using e-paper technologies to alter the key caps to show which unicode character you'll get in the current font. Storage media will have ram banks on-mount for caching. Multi-processors with some ram each, both for caching and for operations locally, and ram-busses connected to them.

And for those in the need for privacy, white noise shielded cables to connect modules, and cases with WNG's, using faraday cages....
 
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