What would you like to see changed about MGT?
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Andrew Boulton
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An inexperienced Ref won't be familiar enough with how the system works - or trusted enough by the players - to be able to come up with reasonable rolls on the spot without a task system to guide him.
Once you know how everything works, then you can choose which bits to use.
Once you know how everything works, then you can choose which bits to use.
Supplement Four
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I didn't realize that about MGT. If that's the case, then, yes, definitely, MCr should be used.
You know what I'd love to see as an ATU? The Alien universe, but with not so much emphasis placed on the Alien. I'd like to see the rest of the universe explored. Different careers. Different obstacles to overcome (besides running for your life from the Aliens).
The Alien movies hint as such an interesting universe that I'd like to see more stuff about the megacorps, the independent scouts and miners, the colonists, the starship manufacturers, the other arms of the military (besides the Colonial Marines).
There's just so much to those films that could be explored.
Every rpg has a task system, though. CT certainly has one. It's unstructured, it's a method of handling tasks (and is probably best described by MWM in the beginning pages of The Traveller Adventure).
If you're referring to CT as "not having a task system", then I have to strongly disagree with you.
I mean, that structureless system worked, for years, just fine, with what was then the most popular science fiction rpg on the market.
Even inexperienced refs used it.
But, what I do agree (and what I think CT has needed for years) is a nice little chapter on how to do throws--not unlike what MWM writes in the Traveller Adventure. That should be in the main rules--guidelines for GMs on using a structureless task system, creating throws on-the-fly, and such.
Icosahedron
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:rofl: I like that so much I might even generate a signature...
The Hinterworlds Rambler
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Thats what I mean also about Blade Runner, like you said about Aliens. Attack Ships on fire? Off the shoulder of Orion? A new life in the off world colonies?
The odd thing about Ridley Scott's Alien and Blade Runner is that the two movies could concievably be set in the same universe. One happens to be set on Earth, the other in space, is all. The relative technologies look mostly compatible - and both have replicants of a sort.
People said the same, as much about Kubrik's 2001: A Space Oddessy and Clockwork Orange too.
People said the same, as much about Kubrik's 2001: A Space Oddessy and Clockwork Orange too.
While the ship writeups give everything in credits, many of the tables in the ship construction system give values in Mcr. This does get somewhat annoying to have to convert back and forth.
Allen
Supplement Four
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Maybe in the same universe, but I'd think in different time periods. Alien's tech seems a little bit more advanced than what we see in BR.
The BR's atmosphere is a bit oppressive, and in a state of decline. If you've read the original PKD novel, it's set sometime after WWIII.
I'd say that BR is set about 25 before Alien, and Aliens, of course, would be 75 years after BR.
BR and its "replicants" are the beginnings of the artificials we see in both Alien and Aliens.
One of the things I always wondered about the Aliens universe is what we see in Aliens 3. And entire planet devoted to a penal colony? Wow. There must be no prisons at all on earth.
mike wightman
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The Kurt Russel film Soldier flat out says it is based in the BR universe - look at the list of campaigns he fights in.
BR mentions off world colonies - are they in our solar system or beyond? Soldier suggests beyond so the Alien film could definitely be around the same time as BR, though probably a bit in its future I agree. Since Aliens is set many years after Alien then by then the Earth is going to have moved on from the BR image.
BR mentions off world colonies - are they in our solar system or beyond? Soldier suggests beyond so the Alien film could definitely be around the same time as BR, though probably a bit in its future I agree. Since Aliens is set many years after Alien then by then the Earth is going to have moved on from the BR image.
mike wightman
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Do Mongoose have the rights to every 2000AD story - because I can think of quite a few that would make good Traveller settings. Hopefully the licence extends to the short run Star Lord comic too - there were some very good settings there.
Border Reiver
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I'd like to see Mongoose Matt's idea of fair use change.
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Bladerunner is only very loosely based upon PKD's original novel (Do Android's Dream of Electric Sheep - one of my very favourites), and I always felt that Ridley Scott's Bladerunner signified a post-modern world, rather than a post-apocolyptic one. That is to say, the Earth was slowly being abandoned by humanity, and the technology found on it was anacronistic and literally going backwards. Indeed, I thought the replicants looked, if anything, more advanced than the artificials in Alien, and they were probably way in advance of the tech levels readiliy available on Earth. Hence the threat.
I also agree that Alien 3 had a pretty good premise, but apparently there were all sorts of problems and bad blood in the production of that movie - with a lot of corporate interests interfering with the director's role (a young David Fincher). This is a shame, I think.
I'd like to see Mongoose Matt's idea of fair use change.
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Well, at least everyone is now getting a chance to talk about it instead of being attacted every time they said they didn't like something about it.
Supplement Four
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Well, there you have it.
Although the tech in Alien doesn't look like it is 103 years advanced over that seen in Blade Runner.
Then again ,we don't see a lot of tech in BR, and one could argue advancement was stunted for a while after WWIII when humanity rebuilt.
A frivolous detail....
ranger2261
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but, they are both set in two alternative universes
Just pointing out when each film said it was set; I said nothing about them being in the same universe. But, if people wish to postulate they are in the same universe, then one is set 100 years after the other. That's all.
Don't forget that Blade Runner and Solider are set in the same universe
As for the difference in tech between the BR and Alien movies, remember that they sleep alot during the traveling between stars. So Tech changes why they are away. Think of the logistics issues for fleets. Having to keep aparts for centuries for those remote far away ships.
Dave Chase
As for the difference in tech between the BR and Alien movies, remember that they sleep alot during the traveling between stars. So Tech changes why they are away. Think of the logistics issues for fleets. Having to keep aparts for centuries for those remote far away ships.
Dave Chase
Andrew Boulton
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Gaff's spinner computer shows the same display as the Nostromo...
