Thank you. Precisely why I spelled it that way.Originally posted by princelian:
Oh, and "wither" is spelled w i t h e r, not whither, which means a selection between multiple places or situations. "Whither goest thou?" for example.
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Thank you. Precisely why I spelled it that way.Originally posted by princelian:
Oh, and "wither" is spelled w i t h e r, not whither, which means a selection between multiple places or situations. "Whither goest thou?" for example.
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Thank you. Precisely why I spelled it that way.[/QB][/QUOTE]Originally posted by Allensh:
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Probably that's because because "its own shoes" are rather lame, outdated and irrelevant by modern standards?Originally posted by Baron Saarthuran von Gushiddan:
[QB] I think a lot of the withering comes from a lack of focus, and perhaps lack of pride in the product. I hear a lot of talk of Halo, or Firefly, or what have you, and not enough talk of Traveller. There seems to be a big rush to cram Traveller into someone else's shoes, instead of its own.
Or maybe you could start understanding why a 30 year old game taken on its own merits isn't particularly interesting to people nowadays?BTW, Mal, I play MOST whatever is out there at least once. Halo is Halo. Firefly is Firefly. Traveller is ?. Maybe you could actually try to see my point, rather than snarkitizing me for wanting to see this getting on 30 year old entity go somewhere besides to some other entity.
Try it now...Originally posted by Casey:
Well I'd like to reply to this thread, but page 1 links back to a copy of page 2 and there may have been more pages than that once upon a time.
Yet another fragmented thread.
I find myself agreeing with the sentiment here Mal.Originally posted by Malenfant:
Probably that's because because "its own shoes" are rather lame, outdated and irrelevant by modern standards?
The Guilded Lilly could be run as a Firefly/Serenity adventure with minimal changes. A lot of the frontier feel of Firefly/Serenity can also be transposed to the CT worlds off the major trade lanes - at least that's how it works IMTUPeople liked Firefly because it was cool and because it was good TV. Traveller is not too dissimilar in its general format, yet very few people would call it 'cool' nowadays. Discuss.
Yep, he did.And also, Traveller was originally supposed to be a generic scifi game. So there's arguably nothing even wrong with 'cramming it in someone else's shoes' since that was the whole point of the game in the first place. I think MWM even said as much in the afterword of Book 3?
Again I agree, Traveller should be able to grow as ideas and imagination do...If you insist on closing your mind to all modern influences just because they're new or different, then you're going to do nothing at all to make the game more attractive to people who are into that stuff (which is a lot of people nowadays).
I think the 1248 setting allows you to do just that.Originally posted by Baron Saarthuran von Gushiddan:
No, my position is that in spite of its generic roots, Traveller DOES have a background imposed on it, and that background after all this time should be developed into a "look" that is comparable to others out there in scope. Yet, it is not.
Oh, I see. I think part of the problem is that the background has frankly never really been all that unique (with the exception of TNE and 1248). When I think of Traveller I think of "standard generic space empire full of old scifi cliche", there's nothing in it that really screams "oh my god this is so cool!!" at me. And it's such a mishmash of settings too, where you can have a stone age world next to a high tech world next to an industrial age world... I think it's just too unfocussed to really click with people. 1248 and TNE got rid of that by at least having some kind of reason for it to be that way.Originally posted by Baron Saarthuran von Gushiddan:
No, my position is that in spite of its generic roots, Traveller DOES have a background imposed on it, and that background after all this time should be developed into a "look" that is comparable to others out there in scope. Yet, it is not.
I suspect that people like Firefly because it was GOOD. And there's been plenty of good scifi in recent years. Babylon 5, the new BSG, Doctor Who, Pitch Black/Chronicles of Riddick, Event Horizon, Firefly... I don't think the bar's been lowered at all by any of that. All of these have been well received and critically acclaimed - just because you may not like them doesn't mean that everyone else is wrong.There are plenty of Firefly people out there, but I suspect its a case of a thirsty person coming thru a desert and Mr. Whedon gives them a thimble of water. Years of bad sci fi or weak sci fi has lowered the bar some.
Funny, I haven't really seen those "rehashed or redressed" much at all lately.It is why you see "Alien" and "Starship Troopers" and such rehashed and redressed eternally. [/qb]
Any luck?Originally posted by Michael Taylor:
Quote from MaL: "1248 is definitely a step in the right direction IMO, but unfortunately Avenger don't seem to really have the resouces to present it in a way that will make everyone turn their heads."
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Check out Thomas Low Jones threads on this board in the T20 area. There's like 5 threads. Its not official but its a start.Originally posted by Laryssa:
Has anyone done any work on converting D20 Future stuff to T20 Traveller? Particularly spaceships and vehicles and the like.