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IF life on Earth like planets develops like here

In which case, again, our question is moot. Naturally the reason to ask the question in the first place is because we want to know about them. But maybe there's another reason to ask it.

And, your Original Post title asks if life develops "like here". Life here seems to imply that no stone will be left unturned...

True. How do we know that they haven't already been here? We don't. But, if you get a chance to know some certain USAF officers well...
 
The sticking points in "are there other civilizations?" are not just that "space is really big", but also that "space is really old" and "it seems that technology must develop faster than evolution". If the civilization question is meaningful beyond mere speculation, then it seems to me that the point is likely to be "we will not find signs of another civilization".

This brings to mind the old idea that any technological civilization will have to survive its wars and conflicts when it reaches the nuclear weapons (and later, more fearsome ones if they make past he first) stage before it can become star-faring.

So how many times do they fail and thus reduce further the number of potential contacts in just our neck of the woods? And the ones that do: the corollary to the above concept is that the ones who are sufficiently advanced should, in theory, be civilized enough socially to be peaceful and might not want outright contact with more violent "primitives" until the primitive grew up. Personally I think that's pretty blue-sky, but it always seems ot come up in this sort of discussion.
 
Then you are utterly ignoring or, misunderstand the effects of TL's in critical aspects of civilization.
Indeed. Even today, TL8? maybe even TL7? we're on the edge of what H. Beam Piper called 'carniculture' in his Terro-Human Future History (the universe that Space Viking, Four Day Planet, and the Fuzzy series all take place in); if the pre-spaceflight Fteirle also achieve carniculture, that could well cause a population explosion on Kusyu. Do I think that they will achieve the population densities that we see in areas of Terra? No. Psychologically, they still need the open space and comparatively low population density, and that - probably more than anything else - will drive them into space and colonization of other worlds. Certainly, they will want the most Fteirle-compatible worlds, but land ownership won't need to be ownership of agriculturally productive land.
 
Indeed. Even today, TL8? maybe even TL7? we're on the edge of what H. Beam Piper called 'carniculture' ...

Correct. The energy requirements to "grow" just meat is a small fraction of what it takes to produce an entire animal. This throws all the calculation seen previously on this thread, right out the window. Bu, bye.

Traveller, in general, ignores the logical rise in tech. Case in point, CT Trav assumed that mainframes of the 70's would be the architecture going forward. The game was basically add lasers, fusion and space drive. Everything remains 1970's TL. Most likely because the author was probably not a science guy but, a Lib Arts type. (probably why the game got created though). So can't complain really.
 
Correct. The energy requirements to "grow" just meat is a small fraction of what it takes to produce an entire animal. This throws all the calculation seen previously on this thread, right out the window. Bu, bye.

Traveller, in general, ignores the logical rise in tech. Case in point, CT Trav assumed that mainframes of the 70's would be the architecture going forward. The game was basically add lasers, fusion and space drive. Everything remains 1970's TL. Most likely because the author was probably not a science guy but, a Lib Arts type. (probably why the game got created though). So can't complain really.
I wasn't even thinking of the energy requirements per se; rather, a cow's worth of carniculture meat simply won't require the acreage of grain that a cow does - the source of the proteins, enzymes, et cetera that go into the nutrient solution don't necessarily have to come from the same grains that Elsie-on-the-hoof would eat and digest; it can come from other crops, the wastage from human-edible food, synthesis, et cetera.
 
I wasn't even thinking of the energy requirements per se; rather, a cow's worth of carniculture meat simply won't require the acreage of grain that a cow does - the source of the proteins, enzymes, et cetera that go into the nutrient solution don't necessarily have to come from the same grains that Elsie-on-the-hoof would eat and digest; it can come from other crops, the wastage from human-edible food, synthesis, et cetera.

Within a couple of TL's we'll be able to synthesize everything required. No crops for this then.
 
Sheets of bacon running off the assembly lines looking like those old films of the presses rolling.
 
"Here at Empiri-pork we raise nothing but the finest bacon in our growing vats. The all-natural method for hundreds of years, our bacon mills pride themselves at the kilometers of bacon produced and shipped to the markets every day, fresh to your table! Why just seeing the fleets of bacon ships take off not only fills me with pride but it makes me as hungry as an Aslan.... for some bacon.

Empiri-pork! Good Enough For The Emperor, Good enough For You! "
 
Just wrap yourself up in a blanket of bacon. :D

"Come to New Azuria, where the streets are paved with bacon!"
 
Oh dear.

This reminds me of..... Stainless Steel Rat (with apologies to Harry Harrison!)

Porcuswine, firmly favoured and enjoyed throughout the Imperial Core worlds, the Marches and now available to all Imperial Citizens in the Solomani Rim!
 
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