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Duchies of the Spinward Marches Sector

I have the following recorded:
  • Sylea: Aramis
  • Ilelish (@ Ilelish, not Dlan): Robject
  • Antares: DonM/Archangel620 & AndreaV
    Solomani Rim (not Sol /@ Terra, not Exeter): TJonesLo
    Sol: ???
  • Deneb: ???
  • Gateway: ???
  • Vland: ???
Do you know of any others?

Marc also gave out several Grand Duchies:
  • Thanber (Imperial Client-State): DonM/Archangel620
  • Rhylanor: Adam Dray


Marc seems to have left timeframe up to the Patent-holder's choice, if I have correctly understood some of his subsequent comments.
I'm Gateway.
 
I'm not sure how you get that from his description in TTA "This is fortunate, for the Marquis is a useless profligate who spends most of his time enjoying his wealth and social position."
I mean, that's just a hatchet job by some Library Data freelancer! Seriously, though, that's a good point. I was thinking he'd probably do the minimum necessary to get the connections so I picked one of the least prestigious knighthoods, but he would probably have been the type to just use his time in the Karbiili School and Imperial Sylean University on parties, not work. I'll remove it. In my games, the Orders have yearly balls and other social events on occasion, as they're sort of like fraternal societies for the aristocrats.

Currently, I'm looking into Delphine's activities after 1050, as there's not a lot canonically there.
 
Thanks.

May I ask how your card is styled (World & Title Style for the Noble Registry)?
Card Quote:
Lord Kundert
Archduke of the Gateway
Ley 1210 Dukh A6659CC-C

Which is odd, since most nobles use their first name. The Archduke of Sol is an exception, but perhaps the Archdukes are all that exception?
 
. . . most nobles use their first name. The Archduke of Sol is an exception, but perhaps the Archdukes are all that exception?

Per older CT material, Counts (and presumably Viscounts) were also an exception in that regard (the Comital title being associated with a world in their 2-3 world demesne or with their surname). In a sense you could also include Barons as well, with the precedent of the nobilary prefix on the surname "hault-", "von-", "ap-", etc.
 
Card Quote:
Lord Kundert
Archduke of the Gateway
Ley 1210 Dukh A6659CC-C

If you have any other subsidiary patents you would like recorded in the registry, I would be happy to put them up there as well.

At the moment, this is the only entry I have for you.
 
I'll note that I've an SEH card for the "Battle of Boughene" - which is in the 5FW, IIRC. JTAS 12 puts Boughene in the list of combat zones on 14-1108 (JTAS 12, p5)
SMC lists 229-1108 as when the Zhodani invaded Boughene.

So, it's safe to say that card is unlikely to be earlier...
All of my hoard are in my sig.

Oh, and my challenge coin/regimental ID is Major, Commanding the Vargr Battalion of the 1188...
 
I'll note that I've an SEH card for the "Battle of Boughene" - which is in the 5FW, IIRC. JTAS 12 puts Boughene in the list of combat zones on 14-1108 (JTAS 12, p5)
SMC lists 229-1108 as when the Zhodani invaded Boughene.

So, it's safe to say that card is unlikely to be earlier...
All of my hoard are in my sig.

Oh, and my challenge coin/regimental ID is Major, Commanding the Vargr Battalion of the 1188...

I added the SEH and MCG on the ALL PATENTS Tab.

Note that I also had you listed for:
  • Knight of the Iridium Throne - CORE 1434 Diirmuu
Is this in error?


Also, the following entry in your signature does not have a Traveller Map correspondence:
  • Knight of the Order of Deneb - SPIN 2532
Do I take it you are the mysterious "Ghost" Knight of "CP Ghost", uncertainly associated with the mythical world Ayoreldold (variously and dubiously located at either SPIN 2532 or SPIN 2632)? Am I now in trouble with Imperial Naval Intelligence or S-3? ;)
 
Mine said 1116 as there was a previous duke of Glisten awarded.

Yes, Bloo, the creator of the Patents Registry, also has a Dukedom for Glisten. (And they are both styled Duke "of Glisten").

That is interesting as this is the only instance that I know of with a formal date for the patent.
 
I am trying to fill out the nobles in charge of the various fiefs in the Spinward Marches (because I figure the Library Data program would be set up with the information of who is in charge of the region you're in, for example). I have found the Patents Registry very useful for this, and I hope the various real people who have these patents aren't offended by my occasional attempts to portray them when required by the needs of the game.
 
I am trying to fill out the nobles in charge of the various fiefs in the Spinward Marches (because I figure the Library Data program would be set up with the information of who is in charge of the region you're in, for example). I have found the Patents Registry very useful for this, and I hope the various real people who have these patents aren't offended by my occasional attempts to portray them when required by the needs of the game.
If possible, I would suggest you contact the owners of the Characters (on COTI ?) and see if they mind and/or can give you an insight into the character concept (if any).

Remember that some of those Characters are existing (in some cases cherished) PCs.
 
Yes, Bloo, the creator of the Patents Registry, also has a Dukedom for Glisten. (And they are both styled Duke "of Glisten").

That is interesting as this is the only instance that I know of with a formal date for the patent.
I'm living in a very cluttered 40 ft shipping container, my son bought me a desk/table and I cleared some of the clutter and I found my patents of nobility as well as my TAS membership. There are also two knighthoods that I awarded to my twin sons. They have the cards for the knighthoods.

TAS Gary Seebo
DENE 1128 DEKHA C10A9A-F
0053

BARON OF KHALU
LISH 2709 KHALU A584578-B
12264

DUKE GARY SEEBO
SPIN 2036 GLISTEN A000986-F
0206
I suppose the date was told to me at the same time I was told of another DUKE of GLISTEN has been awarded, Ask Marc if he remembers. When the emperor tells you a date for your patent of nobility, you say thank you your magesty, and do not look for the date on your card.
 
I suppose the date was told to me at the same time I was told of another DUKE of GLISTEN has been awarded
There is some turnover in the noble ranks, from time to time.
Not everyone is a duke of {insert name here} concurrently. There are predecessors and successors in every posting.
 
If possible, I would suggest you contact the owners of the Characters (on COTI ?) and see if they mind and/or can give you an insight into the character concept (if any).

Remember that some of those Characters are existing (in some cases cherished) PCs.
Sure, if it comes up in-game. I mean, nothing's published, I'm just massacring character concepts like I was a writer for the last season of Game of Thrones*.

* I mean, I try not to massacre character concepts, but sometimes players don't really click with an NPC and I try to move on, one way or another.
 
I'm living in a very cluttered 40 ft shipping container, my son bought me a desk/table and I cleared some of the clutter and I found my patents of nobility as well as my TAS membership. There are also two knighthoods that I awarded to my twin sons. They have the cards for the knighthoods.

TAS Gary Seebo
DENE 1128 DEKHA C10A9A-F
0053

BARON OF KHALU
LISH 2709 KHALU A584578-B
12264

DUKE GARY SEEBO
SPIN 2036 GLISTEN A000986-F
0206
I suppose the date was told to me at the same time I was told of another DUKE of GLISTEN has been awarded, Ask Marc if he remembers. When the emperor tells you a date for your patent of nobility, you say thank you your magesty, and do not look for the date on your card.

When you get a chance, take a look on the Patents Registry (link is in my Signature) and see if I have them correct and/or listed in a manner that meets your satisfaction. Feel free to alter as necessary. Remember that you are recorded on both the ALL PATENTS Tab and the individual Domain (or Spinward Marches) Tabs.

TAS Memberships are not recorded on the Registry.
 
Very odd...
I just checked the Patents Registry because I hold the "Baron Knorbes" title (Spin 1807)

And the Registry says that it's held by "Hemdian - Lord Peter Trevor"

So, I guess someone made a mistake
 
Very odd...
I just checked the Patents Registry because I hold the "Baron Knorbes" title (Spin 1807)

And the Registry says that it's held by "Hemdian - Lord Peter Trevor"

So, I guess someone made a mistake

In some cases more than one person is associated with the same world. Note that there is no potential conflict unless both patent holders are styled "NOBLETITLE" of "WORLD NAME", which is the proper form for THE Representative Landed Noble for the world of that rank.

There can be any number of Ceremonial or Honor Nobles on a world for a given rank styled various ways (e g. NOBLETITLE of the Spinward Marches, NOBLETITLE of the Third Imperium, NOBLETITLE of the Imperial Core, NOBLETITLE of the Moot, NOBLE TITLE of the Realm, etc). Even if you are both styled "Baron Knorbes", you may be Baron during different eras, one of you may have been retired or deposed or "out of favor at court", or successor in a new line replacing a terminal one, or even a "forged patent" (which is possible through the Rogue Career in T5).

I share a patent for Baronet Jae Tellona with MichaelSTee, and have "Double" Count of Porozlo titles that I share with Savage (though I count my Porozlo title as a subordinate subsidiary Viscountcy of my Comital title Rhovanion on Rhylanor).
 
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