Duchies of the Spinward Marches Sector

[whulorigan]

I just checked the Patents Registry because I hold the "Baron Knorbes" title (Spin 1807)

Do you have any other patents? Let me know and I will enter them into the registry. Let me know the exact wording on the patent card(s).

 

[whulorigan]

. . . I found my patents of nobility as well as my TAS membership. There are also two knighthoods that I awarded to my twin sons. They have the cards for the knighthoods.

TAS Gary Seebo
DENE 1128 DEKHA C10A9A-F
0053

BARON OF KHALU
LISH 2709 KHALU A584578-B
12264

DUKE GARY SEEBO
SPIN 2036 GLISTEN A000986-F
0206
I suppose the date was told to me at the same time I was told of another DUKE of GLISTEN has been awarded, Ask Marc if he remembers. When the emperor tells you a date for your patent of nobility, you say thank you your magesty, and do not look for the date on your card.

When you get a chance, take a look on the Patents Registry (link is in my Signature) and see if I have them correct and/or listed in a manner that meets your satisfaction. Feel free to alter as necessary. Remember that you are recorded on both the ALL PATENTS Tab and the individual Domain (or Spinward Marches) Tabs.

TAS Memberships are not recorded on the Registry.

Based on the styles shown above, it could also be argued that your Ducal Patent is an Honour or Ceremonial (i.e. Administrative/Bureaucracy) Patent rather than a Landed (proper) Representative Patent like the Baronial Patent.

In other words, the Baronial Patent is styled "Baron of Khalu", which is the unique styling for the Landed Representative of the World before the Moot and the rest of the Subsector/Sector (as opposed to, for example "Baron of the Third Imperium", with Khalu simply listed as the world association underneath, which would be an Honour or Ceremonial title with fief-lands on Khalu).

"Duke Gary Seebo" could simply be an Honour or Ceremonial title granted to the Baron, with the Dukedom styled in the last name of the Patent Holder, with fief-lands on (rocks in ?) Glisten and other worlds about the Spinward Marches Sector per the Ducal Land Grant parameters. Perhaps the Landed Baron was promoted to a Senior-level administrative posting within the Imperial Bureaucracy of the Spinward Marches or the Domain of Deneb, and granted the Ducal title to elevate him in order to enable him to hold the position? (Note that he was awarded a Lifetime TAS Membership from a world in Deneb Sector - perhaps to enable him to travel between Lishun and the Domain of Deneb?)

If so, you will want to make sure one of your sons is invested as a Steward or Seneschal of your Khalu Estates to oversee it in your absence and arrange to have its Moot votes given in Proxy to a trusted local noble in Lishun. It is fortunate that your sons were also both granted estates on Glisten so that they have places of residence should they choose to act as intermediaries between your current posting and your Khalu Estates.

Of course, the character concept is yours to do with as you please. Those are just some possibilities and suggestions.

 

[warwizard]

Based on the styles shown above, it could also be argued that your Ducal Patent is an Honour or Ceremonial (i.e. Administrative/Bureaucracy) Patent rather than a Landed (proper) Representative Patent like the Baronial Patent.

In other words, the Baronial Patent is styled "Baron of Khalu", which is the unique styling for the Landed Representative of the World before the Moot and the rest of the Subsector/Sector (as opposed to, for example "Baron of the Third Imperium", with Khalu simply listed as the world association underneath, which would be an Honour or Ceremonial title with fief-lands on Khalu).

"Duke Gary Seebo" could simply be an Honour or Ceremonial title granted to the Baron, with the Dukedom styled in the last name of the Patent Holder, with fief-lands on (rocks in ?) Glisten and other worlds about the Spinward Marches Sector per the Ducal Land Grant parameters. Perhaps the Landed Baron was promoted to a Senior-level administrative posting within the Imperial Bureaucracy of the Spinward Marches or the Domain of Deneb, and granted the Ducal title to elevate him in order to enable him to hold the position? (Note that he was awarded a Lifetime TAS Membership from a world in Deneb Sector - perhaps to enable him to travel between Lishun and the Domain of Deneb?)

If so, you will want to make sure one of your sons is invested as a Steward or Seneschal of your Khalu Estates to oversee it in your absence and arrange to have its Moot votes given in Proxy to a trusted local noble in Lishun. It is fortunate that your sons were also both granted estates on Glisten so that they have places of residence should they choose to act as intermediaries between your current posting and your Khalu Estates.

Of course, the character concept is yours to do with as you please. Those are just some possibilities and suggestions.

Thank you for the exposition, it really helped me understand the process better. Perhaps my work on innovative processes to maximize effeciency of short range cargo operations got noticed, and I got the job to improve the merchant operations between Aki and Glisten, it's the million ton elifant in the room in the Glisten subsector with level G resourses in AKI, HI, IN, PO TL-9, and it's only J-1 from Glisten HI IN AS TL-F. The level of trade there totally dwarfs the trade in the rest of the subsector as well as more than half the subsector population is in the two systems. I'm sure the Marquis of Aki wants to improve his infrastructure to build the in system ships locally, as well as build a few experimental J-1 ships for the dedicated trade with Glisten.

 

[whulorigan]

Thank you for the exposition, it really helped me understand the process better. Perhaps my work on innovative processes to maximize effeciency of short range cargo operations got noticed, and I got the job to improve the merchant operations between Aki and Glisten, it's the million ton elifant in the room in the Glisten subsector with level G resourses in AKI, HI, IN, PO TL-9, and it's only J-1 from Glisten HI IN AS TL-F. The level of trade there totally dwarfs the trade in the rest of the subsector as well as more than half the subsector population is in the two systems. I'm sure the Marquis of Aki wants to improve his infrastructure to build the in system ships locally, as well as build a few experimental J-1 ships for the dedicated trade with Glisten.

With a Ducal patent you may in fact be overseeing the operations of the entire Sector or Domain Level Subdivision of the Commerce Ministry for the Emperor (perhaps under Archducal oversight) and bringing that expertise to bear, perhaps starting with and focussed on the Glisten interface.

It would depend on whether you were C6/Soc=15f (Duke) or C6/Soc=15F (Duke).

 

[aramis]

I know I've at least one patent not in my sig.
SPIN 2532 - I never checked the patents against the maps, so the empty hex patent implies a bunch of interesting possibilities.

as for Diriimu... AFAIK, yes, it's correct. I don't quite know where my cards are to verify.

 

[PVernon]

It looks like two of mine are not listed.
Knight of the Third Imperium - Spin 2827 Meleto C675100-5
MCG - For Conspicuous Gallantry - The Assault on Emerald

Are you tracking TAS memberships? Looked but did not see so ...........

 

[whulorigan]

I know I've at least one patent not in my sig.

If you find out what it is, I'll make sure it is up there. Let me know if you want it assigned to a different "character".

SPIN 2532 - I never checked the patents against the maps, so the empty hex patent implies a bunch of interesting possibilities.

I'd LOVE to explore that one . . .

 

[whulorigan]

It looks like two of mine are not listed.
Knight of the Third Imperium - Spin 2827 Meleto C675100-5
MCG - For Conspicuous Gallantry - The Assault on Emerald

Are you tracking TAS memberships? Looked but did not see so ...........

I'll double check when I get home and add any patents or awards that are missing. There has never been a registry of TAS Members.

 

[whulorigan]

It looks like two of mine are not listed.
Knight of the Third Imperium - Spin 2827 Meleto C675100-5
MCG - For Conspicuous Gallantry - The Assault on Emerald

Are you tracking TAS memberships? Looked but did not see so ...........

I'll double check when I get home and add any patents or awards that are missing. There has never been a registry of TAS Members.

Congratulations, Your Lordship. Your Lands, Title, and Awards have been recorded in the Roll of the Imperial College of Arms.

Link: Traveller5 Noble Patents Registry